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Business beyond profit – REWORK

37signals · 2026-03-18 · 27м 24с · 1 958 просмотров · YouTube ↗

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Profit matters, but it’s not the whole story. In this episode, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson talk about building a company around independence instead of endless growth. They reflect on finding the right size for a business, keeping costs low to preserve freedom, and choosing a long, sustainable run over chasing scale at any cost.

*Key Takeaways*

00:00 – Episode preview
00:36 – Finding your “orbit” when you don’t need to keep pushing for more
04:49 – Letting go of the idea that growth has to be endless
10:20 – Choosing independence instead of outside pressure
19:56 – Keeping costs low so you have room to try things your way
22:33 – Why steady can beat getting bigger

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