Tim Draws Things - Apr 15

All right, we're here, I think. You know, at some point, at some point, the first item won't be troubleshooting, you know? And that point is not yet, but we're close. We're getting every time there's something new because we're trying something new today. We're having a guest today, Mark Rober, and we have to figure out how that, how do you do that? How do you do a zoom on here? How does the audio come through? Is it just one audio or is it different than the music audio? How do you, you know? And so now figuring that out and I think we now have figured out what we need to figure out. But every day, you know, early on here, there's always some bullshit. Now, this is as usual. You please tell me if something is wrong with the audio. If the audio is too loud, too quiet, etc. I think everything's good. Okay. Hey, here we are. Should we start? Should we do some stuff? I think we should move on to procrastination. Alicia says mic up, so let's just do that. Mic up. Maybe I can move the mic a little closer. Here we go. Mic up a little bit. How's that? Hello. Hi. Okay. Let me know if I'm too loud or too quiet. Yeah, see? You should watch the TED Talk, and then you'll see why we're always kind of like frantically doing this. Music does a tad loud compared to your voice. Okay. see that's the kind of that i it's helpful okay so i moved it down a little bit you all let me know all right so here we are now um yesterday should we do a little review of how great yesterday was um i'm very pleased with my progress yesterday um it's over here okay um so let's open let's do a review of yesterday This is a, this is procrastination. This is the kind of shit I would do to procrastinate is I would like look at yesterday's and tweak them. And then I realized it's been like two hours and I'm like, I've been working for two hours. I'm like, no, I haven't. All I've been doing for two hours is refining yesterday's drawings. That's not new work. That doesn't count. So let's do some of this. I like, you should experience the full Tim work situation, including the way, the different ways that I, the instant gratification monkey, including the ways that this fuck. makes me do shit. In fact, let's just put him up. Let's just leave him here. I need like a table behind me where he sits, you know? We'll put him here today. We'll just have him around, okay? There's not really a way up. Can't really tack him to the wall, but he's also the panic monster. Problem is with posts, he doesn't really show up. He doesn't care. Sorry, with books. He cares about, oh my God, a post is due tomorrow. I told everyone it would be up tomorrow. People are going to come to the site. He comes here for like a second when I live stream to be like, oh shit, it started. You know, I'm like, ah, it's not ready. Like he was just here for a minute a minute ago, but you know, so I'm going to put these down here for now, but the monkey is, is active at the moment. All right. So let's look at what we did yesterday. So the first thing we did was how big is Stevenson? Stevenson is the biggest star. Oh shit. Why is that what it shows? Oh no. Did it not save? Well, either way, we have a tiff. It can't be, right? It can't have not saved. This is what we did yesterday. And if it didn't save, then this is just, luckily this was an easy one, but like, this is what I'm talking about. Can I not trust Illustrator? I'm pretty sure I saved, whatever. This one took five minutes, so I'm not worried. Now I'm worried though about the other one. Let's all take a deep, first of all, let's just talk about this for a second. If that's the sun, that little tiny dot, can you see it here? That's this dot here. Then that's the biggest star. Okay, so that's what we did to start off. Now, then we did this. Please, please be normal in there. Okay. This one, I would have, I might have offed myself. It might have been the end for me if this one just showed up and there was nothing there. Okay. So this was, we're illustrating the difference between a 1600s tavern. and the dumb conversations they would be having and the 1700s enlightenment caffeine-fueled conversation. Then we did this, which is actually this came second. We did the, this is the world population. In green, each dot is 10 million people. Future people or above, we don't know how many there are. Could be a few. If the apocalypse is near, could be that. container could be the height of a skyscraper if not and then you've got dead people that's how many people have died 10 million people per per dot so a lot a lot of people have died but like a lot of people are alive you know um so yeah i like how this one came out i think and then we finally did this one here ah okay phew alicia says stevenson's in there and that's okay okay good good good good it went to the wrong folder okay Anyway, alright, so now we've got this here, which is the atmosphere, you see? And, you know, there's a concern that maybe when this is small on the page, you just want people to read these words. So, I might have to figure out, oh, this is the lady that sings. I think I'm going to go back to the, I always get upset when these two songs come, okay. A tad there. Okay. So you see, for those who weren't with us at the end of the night, you see what's going on here. So everything we think of is like the sky, up in the sky, way high up in the sky. When you're in the airplane at the cruising altitude, you're like, wow, I'm way above the clouds. Like, you know, like super high. That's all the troposphere. And if you look on the right, that's nothing. That's just like this little strip where the really heavy atmosphere is where all weather takes place. Not much goes on in the stratosphere or the mesosphere or the thermosphere. So it's really like we live everything we think of as the sky is very small. Anyway, I don't really know what you can take from this. People can take what they please. But, you know, when you're in an airplane, you see cruising altitude here of an airplane. That's why you don't when you're really high up, you're really usually above all the clouds. There's not very many clouds up there because you're kind of above. most of the atmosphere um so yeah that's what we did yesterday um now i'm going to start today uh so this is a um i think we're gonna say like six mark rober you know there's a chance by the way he's at ted and lots going on there's a chance his schedule gets super okay he says 11 a.m as it goes so let's just put this in at uh so that's 11 a.m his time so 1 p.m Mark Rober visit. All right. Now, I don't know if you know Mark. Some of you probably know him very well. Some people probably don't. He's like maybe the second biggest YouTuber after Mr. Beast. He makes these amazing, extremely involved videos where he will do some stream. He's an engineer and he'll do some insane thing like fill an entire swimming pool with like little beads and jump in it or he'll like take down like an Indian call center from the US with like by like hacking into their camera system or something. So anyway his videos are incredible and he's also a really good friend of mine and he's the best. He's a very fun dude. I always had a great time with him and so when I said there's gonna be guests I hadn't even thought of who they might be yet and he just pinged me and was like hey can I be a guest? I was like yeah. So here we are. We're going to have a little hang. We'll do a drawing with him, but we'll have to do other drawings first. Can't be procrastinating all the way till one. So, oh, sorry. One is, let me just do two ET. Okay. Procrastination. So now here's what I'm thinking. One activity I like for procrastination with you. We haven't done it in this year's live streams yet. We did it in the What's Our Problem live streams. By the way, was anyone who's currently here at any of the What's Our Problem live streams? Because that would be cool if someone was a vote. But anyway, so question, are these drawings for the new poster or book? Good question. These drawings, every drawing is for a giant book that I've been working on since June of 2023. And I'm in the closing stretches here. We're almost done with drawings. It can be done by the end of April. And then I have one more big revision to do. I've already done a big revision, big fact check. One more big revision to do. I send it to Random House. They copy edit it and it's off. Page design. Then they go and print it. And it is on the shelves September of 27th. So sometime still. But I need to do my part and get it to them so that it won't, so because they have, it takes them a long time. once I get the book to them. So we're doing drawings now. And the part of the reason I do live stream drawings is that it is productive to do drawings, to do hard work. Like, again, you can laugh at me saying stick figures are hard, but they're hard for me. It takes a lot of effort to do all these drawings and live stream. Actually, I get the huge amount done because there's just people watching. So I work, I don't know, eight hours out of a 10 hour live stream. I'll work eight of them. And that's like a big ass work day for me. Eight focus hours. So it's really a productivity hack. Plus, it's just fun to connect with readers because I'm not doing posts right now. So we're not hanging out every week like we are when I do that. So that's your answer. Oh, yeah. Okay, cool. Nice L power. Yeah, we had fun doing those as well. Those were on Pixelmator, now we're on Illustrator. Okay, so I think what we're going to do is we're going to procrastinate to start the day today with an idea I've got here, which is we're going to do a crossword puzzle together. Okay, so we're going to do a New Yorker crossword. Okay, I like the New Yorker crosswords, and I like their interface for computer. Oh, Robin Weintraub. Beginner-friendly puzzle. Well, don't be a dick. Let's do one that's not that easy. No, fuck it. Let's do an easy one. I don't care. Let's see if we can do it fast. And if I don't know an answer, like, you can help me, you know? Okay, so let's just make this a little bigger so we can all see. All right. Okay, so exchange. I feel like that would be, like, trade or something. Okay. PC shortcut key. Alt command. No, that's Apple. CTRL? Maybe? York's home of Warhol's account. It's got to be the MoMA. The sword and the stone. Okay, this is easy. Don't tell me it's impossible. Yes, I can. No. Member of software development team. Is a... Member of a software development team. Coder. Duh. Okay. Pulsate. Pulsate is... I'm just Ken from Earth. Yeah. Some real gimme's here. Segment of a relay raises leg. College student secondary course. Study. Major? No. Secondary minor. They make up most of Earth's surface. They make up most of Earth's surface is oceans. It's undeniably attractive. Magnet. Okay. This is a little easy. Should we do a harder one? Feeling emo. Pulsators throb. Yeah, good call. Okay, so now we should just be able to do this. Don't tell me it's impossible. Oh, yes, I can. Okay. It's a little weird. Feeling emo. Something hatched by fantasy mode. Dragon egg. Reason a singer might break up the band Solo career Solo career, you know, I just watched I think I mentioned this yesterday. I just watched the Beatles documentary the documentary. Um, what's it called? Like the get back sessions on Netflix. I'm like a huge or not Disney Plus. I'm a huge Beatles nerd I really am like obsessed with them and they're just like learning about them and like digging in and obviously I love their music. Hornet. And anyway, so yeah, it was just interesting because it was January 1969 and it's like the time when they're starting to, they're having major problems. They're like in the midst of breaking up, but they were still yet to create Abbey Road and like. The songs on the Let It Be album that are famous, like, they had still had magic that was happening while they were breaking up, and it's quite interesting to watch if you're a Beatles nerd. Serb. Hmm. Let me see. Long part of some sailors tales. Sea voyage? No, tales is question mark, so it's going to be. Portion of a Venn diagram. Segment? No. Circle. Maybe it's not Let Me See. Let's see. Let's just go over here for a second. Let's do some more over here. On your feet. Dand up. Confection that contained Charlie Bucket's golden ticket. Oh, it was like, wasn't it just a chocolate bar? I'm confused. Wonka bar? Okay. Andy. Green veggie in a... This should be swap. Green veggie in a samosa. I'm assuming that's a P. Yeah. T.I.P. Blank diplomacy. China's strategy of sending bears overseas as a goodwill jester. Panda? Hilarious. Who knew? Maybe sea shanty for sailor's tails. Okay. Let's try it. Hey from Turkey. This is also, by the way, you're here at like the undepressing time. I'm like energetic. I have hope. Late in the day, it gets real like... Slow. Some people like that time. We bond. It's very intimate later at night, but it's like... It's nice to be here in the morning. The morning is the best work time for me. Twists in a politically favorable way. Spins. Portion of a Venn diagram. Subset. Okay. Hoity-toity type snob. Not snob. Snob. Now we have problems. What's BHS? This is so much fun. I think what's not sea shanty. See something. This is so much fun. Okay. Beginning of many a Valentine's Frozen. Roses are rest. Far from sketchy. Sweet term of endearment. Honey pie. Actress Rooney Mara. Is that right? What's MOC? What the hell is this? Where is the thing? 26 across. Why is it not showing? Glitchy? Okay, whatever. Casual shoe for one. Mock. I guess. Okay, moccasin. Panama Canal. Yeah. Tax levy. This one's a little easy. I think next time, maybe tomorrow, we'll do one of the harder ones. Far from sketchy. This is so much fun. Best day ever. Some NASA launches. Far from sketchy. Eli Manning's... Okay, Peyton. Some of these are such gimmies. Like some old audiobooks and home movies. Like part of some sailors tales. It has a question mark, which means it's 39 across. Rio Speedwagon? Okay. Hey, thanks. I didn't know that. I have no idea what that is. ASTO? What's ASTO? Just out of curiosity. 29 down. On the topic of. As to. Sea sermons? Sea serpents? I don't know. Oh, tails? No, I don't know. Like, okay, let's go over here. Scarborough or Lilith follower. It's a band. Hey, hey, hooky. What up? Space, the final frontier. What's definitely not right when it's 110 degrees angle? Unpoco, probably loco, but oh, no, that's a restaurant. Conga and bunny hop formation. Line. Maybe it is Loco. No. Because this is going to be I-N-G. Toon that tempted Odysseus. I don't know. I'm actually really ignorant on that whole story. I need to, like, read it at some point. Like twins from a single fertilized... Oh, identical. Loco. Okay. This must be Song. Test a screwdriver. Didn't realize... I was hooky. Sorry, it's Tom Nash. Hey, Tom Nash. What up, man? Tom Nash, you should watch his, he has a great, great YouTube podcast where he cooks your final meal for you. So it's not a normal show. He asked me if you had to have one meal, what would you have? And I was like, I don't know. And I was thinking about it and I was like, how about some pad thai? And so Tom Nash cooked me pad thai. And I went to his studio and we ate dinner. I guess it was, I don't think it was his house, but it was a studio. And we had dinner and had a great conversation. So if you Google Tom Nash, Tim Urban, you can go watch us chat. I thought it was a really good chat too. So Tom is here. 56 across, pull. Oh yeah, Peace or Olympic. Okay, nice. And then this would be sip. Sip, oh, screwdriver. Got it, ha ha. Okay. Requirements, needs. Let's go back over here. Some NASA launches. Rovers? Card in a royal flush is going to be. Base. Rockets? That's stupid. Come on. They're all rockets. Government agents. Feds? Far from sketchy. Detailed. I get it. Ha ha. Worries. Frets. Agree to employee. Higher. I think this is too easy, guys. Applied lubricant too. Boiled. Okay. One more. Prefix with gender. Oh, come on. Don't, don't, don't, don't go so woke on me, New Yorker. Looks without blinking. Stairs. Hollywood negotiator. Hollywood negotiator is an agent. Little tree house is a nest. adorable not al fresco vinnie to bill gian gambini in a vinnie is his cousin um tune that tempted odysseus is a this is so embarrassing siren song right the sirens are like the hot ladies um long part of some sailors tales is just gonna be a c i'm i'm i don't know this one like some yeah siren song Not alfresco. Utility bill of measurement. Usage. Okay, that should help us. What is going on here? See inside must be not alfresco. Inside? Okay, I don't know what alfresco means, I guess. See serpent. Yeah, okay. Oh, siren song. You see, this is what happens to me is I make a typo. There we go. Okay. You know, I think we could have done a little better given the easiness of that. But yeah, thank you. All right. Should we do some drawing? Should we get to work? Maybe we should. Maybe we should get to work. So let's do a drawing. My life is yelling at me that it was Sea Serpent. I get it, guys. Okay. Okay, we're gonna do a drawing that I've been putting off because I haven't, some of these, you know, I'm like, I have a plan and I just have to execute. This one, I, we don't quite have a plan. So I have a general thought and I want to see if we can make it work together. We're calling it, so let's move here, Flatland. Let's capitalize it because this is a place. Now, let's save this as, oh, not this. Go away. We're going to save this as flatland. Flatland one, because there's two flatlands. All right, now let me explain what a flatland is. I need to open up my, oh, get out of here. You go away. Nope, not you. There's a lot of screens I'm dealing with here. So what's on the drawing menu? Good question. I think today, I mean, I have a lot I want to do today and tomorrow. So the question is, I usually decide as we go, because if I do a drawing that I'm sick of like doing, drawing something that i'm like i want to do a different kind of drawing next so we'll see but i want to do flatland i want to do a drawing about paradigm shifts like technological paradigm shifts today like a staircase um i want to do um a big comic whether today or tomorrow i do want to get this done in the last week this is probably the biggest beast of a comic in the book besides this one i did about the invention of writing this is probably the hardest comic which is i'm i'm illustrating an LLM coming out of a cauldron and it's like a monster. But then the monster later in a different pane in the later comic is going to be the one who's mixing the stew to get a bigger thing. And this is how we get to artificial super intelligence. It's a way to illustrate both how deep learning brains are born and also how recursive self-improvement could lead to artificial super intelligence. We're going to do that later. Not right now. Flatland, as in the book. No, is that a thing, Flatland, already? I might have to make it in Flatworld. I might have to rename it, but the name could change quickly. The point is the concept. We're going to do Flatland now. So let me just open my, open some stuff here. So we've got Flatland is happening in chapter seven. Chapter seven is the out there chapter. Chapter seven is where we talk about the multiverse. And it's where we talk about the Fermi paradox. And chapter seven is where we talk about like the fine-tuned universe and the crazy unlikelihood that it would exist and why and what's going on there. It's where we talk about the butterfly effect. It's the today chapter where we pause in between the past that we just went through and the future we're about to go into and discuss some of the mind-blowing questions that we have today. So one of the things we're talking about is what's outside the observable universe. So, uh, did I put this in a footnote somewhere? So basically, um, what's his name? The physicist guy, uh, Brian Green. Brian Green has this quote, fabric of the cosmos guy, where he's like, what we know about the... what they call the flatness of the observable universe suggests perhaps that the really the full universe is so much bigger than the observable universe that the observable if the whole universe were the earth the observable universe would just be a grain of sand within it somewhere inside the earth now that's crazy because the observable universe is huge 93 billion Oh, we have some clowns here. 93 billion light years across. Light years. One light year is so many. So 93 billion light years across is a lot. And we're live streaming. You want to come say hi? Okay, we have a clown here who lives two doors down from me. Why don't you come over and say hi? This is Igor. Some of you probably know him. This is Liv. We're on live stream if you want to say hi. Oh, Jesus. yeah uh we have we have live and igor visiting this is what happens by the way they live two doors down from me wow this is a blank screen yeah we're about to draw flatland um they live two doors down from me and they just pop in they're like kramer and we like go into each other's houses to like get milk It's very uh, it's very close. It's very monodirectional. It's very, yeah, well. We never have milk, you always do. Well I was frantically emailing you about printing something last night, so. That's true. You probably, you probably know these people, you know me. Why do you not need to print something anymore? You, you, how did you solve it? Did your printer magically... Yeah, I, I, I like fucking banged the printer till it worked. I had to print something last night for tax reasons. What? Yeah, this is the stream. It's seven seconds delayed, so you won't see the whole thing here. And then we have the chat going on here, you see. So I got going on. Who are the guests here? Okay, so let's just explain. People who don't know, these are two of my best friends here. They are a married couple called Liv Gore. It's Liv and Igor. Liv, you might know from her Win Win podcast, and she has a big ex-account. She's around. And Igor is, they're both great poker players, so that's how a lot of people know them. Ex-poker players. Ex-poker players. Now they're trying to save the world. You kind of are trying to save the world. And they are currently the current owners and caretakers of Winston, the tortoise that I bought in 2005. Winston is in a better place now. You decided that you can't actually have a 120-year commitment instead. Right, it's a 120-year commitment. What you were able to have is a 20-year commitment, which is roughly also what a child is. That's right. That's as far as any human could really go. The question is, does Winston go to our school? No, no. When you buy a tortoise, I bought a baby tortoise and literally he was born in 2005. He should probably live till 2115 or something. 2120. Maybe if he's a short-lived tortoise, only 2090 when I'll be 109 years old. So it's a commitment and he's a very good boy. And now he lives in Austin where he lives outside. Except if you decide to foist him. Yes, well, that's what you, of course. And I foisted him onto the, and this is yes. Okay, we also have, this live stream has gone off the rails. This is Remy or Begonia. I'm just reminding people what procrastination is. Oh yeah, no, no, we just did a crossword puzzle. So I was actually just starting the work, you see. And by the way, these two will pop in. and then i always want to hang with them so it's like massive distraction massive distraction um we're all meant to be working yeah yeah yeah he's coming it too if you want to come hang as well you should come why don't you know why don't you come tomorrow why don't you be the guest visitor tomorrow and we'll pop you in i'm actually have him on the zoom and we can do like geoguessor or something together yeah although i do want to see marx live is a geoguessor expert she also Cause that's when most people know, I don't know if I say one o'clock people are gonna assume it's Eastern. No one does central time. Okay. Yeah, we'll do Geo Gesser with Liv tomorrow. Who cheats, but she's also very good at it. What are you talking about? No, cause you like know where all that, you know where the map is of where they all are. She has a PhD in Bollard. You like use the sun in sneaky ways. Yes, I use my brain, I use logic. No, that's okay. It's okay. Yes, if we're in the southern hemisphere, the sun's in the north. There you go. I gave you the cheat code. Yeah, well, Igor gave it to me, actually, because he didn't want you to have an unfair advantage. Okay, we're actually going to draw now. By... Flatland. Flatland. Okay, so here's what I was saying. Okay, so the observable universe is fucking massive. Do you know those red-shifted galaxies we see really far away in the deep field shots? The observable universe is... We're taking your time. Okay, it's so big. Like it's scary how big it is. Like going to Andromeda is a one and a half million light years away. A light year. Light goes around the Earth seven times in a second. Around the Earth. Now picture that speed for a one and a half million years just to get to the closest galaxy. It's unfathomable how big this space is. And that could be a grain of sand compared to the actual whole universe. Because that's just what we can see. And this isn't even the multiverse. This is just our universe. This might be one of many. So anyway, this section gets very overwhelming. Now, as I'm explaining this, I say, let's talk about this. I'm going to do it with you. So I basically... The people in the Iron Age, like they didn't know is the earth flat or is the earth round? They didn't really understand that if you just kept walking and you could somehow go around the whole, you could just keep walking and sail through whatever water you can do, you'd eventually come back to where you are. That's a concept that they didn't understand. But when it comes to the universe, we don't know what the hell is going on. Is the universe finite or infinite? We literally don't know. That's crazy. We are so ignorant on... We don't know if we're alone in the universe. I mean, there are these massive questions that are just as ignorant as we look back at people who didn't know what the stars were. Are those the, is that the underside of the holes in the dome of heaven with light peeking through? Is the earth flat? Is there, is it on top of a big tortoise? Like we're like, wow, they didn't know anything. We don't know shit. You just zoom out one notch, you know, go zoom out one, we are them. So anyway, So if the universe is finite, it means that it has an edge. And if it has an edge, something must be on the other side of the edge, which makes it not finite. So if the universe is infinite, that solves the edge issue, but then what the hell? How could the universe be infinite? It just keeps going on forever and ever in every direction? That's absurd. This is what I wrote here. So then I said Einstein's theory of general relativity provided at least one possible way to make sense of things. To understand how it works, let's visit a little place called Flatland. Which now a commenter has said it might be a movie, maybe I have to change that term. Whatever. For now it's Flatland. So Flatland is a great world of flowing rivers, expansive grasslands, and very nice people. The only thing about it is that it's all two-dimensional. So all of the features of the land, as well as the people and the animals, are entirely devoid. of thickness. So now we're going to draw that. I don't know exactly what I'm going to do. Am I drawing the whole planet with people around the edges? Am I drawing just a little piece? I don't know yet. I think I might draw the whole thing, but like kind of small. Now, how do you draw a two-dimensional planet? Is it a circle? How do people get by each other on the circle, right? We have to think about these things. Is it like Mario? It's kind of like Mario. You have to like jump over each other. Mario's kind of lives, I mean, not the later Mario's, but like Mario... world he kind of lives in flatland a little bit right um so then i say because we're not done yet this is that's the first drawing now i say so everyone in flatland is enjoying their flat life when some of the flat scientists put out a new hypothesis that blows everyone's flat lines while flatland is a circular planet flat universe may actually curve back upon itself forming a 3D object they call a hypercircle. They would call it a hypercircle, we would call it a sphere, because we live in three dimensions, so we're not surprised. We're like, yeah, a sphere. Any ball is a sphere. If you live in two dimensions, a sphere is this, you can't conceive of it. So you'd call it like a hypercircle. A hypercircle, the scientists explain, is like a circle, but in three dimensions. Everyone is terribly confused. What would a 3D circle even look like? All they can do is picture a 2D circle. How could 2D space be curved? All they can do is picture a one-dimensional line being curved. None of this makes any sense. But the craziest part is what the scientists say next. If the flat universe is curved, it means that if you left flatland in a spaceship and kept going in a straight line, you'd eventually end up arriving back at flatland. That's our second drawing, is them explaining this on like a whiteboard. So then I say, the point of all this, it's a metaphor, of course, it's an analogy. I say this is what some astronomers are trying to tell us except one dimension up. General relativity taught us that matter causes the space time around it to curve. What if the cumulative effect of all the universe's matter creates a big macro curve in space time? If the effect were strong enough, the universe might warp so much that it curves back around on itself to form a four dimensional sphere we call a hypersphere. Again, a four dimensional creature would just be like it's called a they'd have a word for it, it would be very normal. But we, in three dimensions, it just, we can't conceive of it. How does three-dimensional space curve on itself where if you left, so if that's what's happening, it would mean that if you flew a spaceship away from Earth in a straight line and just kept traveling, you would eventually arrive back at Earth, which is fucking weird. But it means that space-time itself... would curve back in on itself in a four-dimensional way that our 3D brains literally cannot picture. We can only use metaphors, which is why I do flatland to use a metaphor. And then I say, yeah, if the astronomers of flatland had long pondered how their universe could be infinite or finite, their new hypothesis would provide an answer. If flat universe is actually the shape of a 3D sphere, it would mean that it is simultaneously finite and unbounded in the same way Earth's surface is finite while also having no beginning or end. As 3D creatures, we are unable to picture a 4D hypersphere any better than the people of hyperflat like a picture of 3D hypercircle, but we can understand the concept. If the universe is a 4D hypersphere, it can be both finite and unbounded. So anyway, this is just one theory. It might not be true, but it is a prominent theory. You know. hyper sphere is only one shape it could take it'd be a hyper donut where it's like picture a donut where if you go around if you start in one place on the edge of the donut and you kind of go around the actual like these loop around the donut part you get back to where you started but if you go the long way around the whole donut you get back to the same spot but it takes you a lot longer so maybe if you leave in one direction from earth and go straight you get back to earth much sooner than if you leave and go in a different direction Now universe is expanding. There's a lot of problems with this actual thought experiment, but the concept is potentially true. So that's that. Now, you know, we know the earth, one of the reasons we learned the earth is curved is a boat would go over the horizon. We'd see it dip down, right? It's like, what's going on there? And so astronomers have actually spent a lot of time looking for a cosmic horizon, past which galaxies dip out of view. Haven't found one yet. Which means the universe, it means that either the universe is not a hypersphere or it could mean that the universe is so big that the horizon is simply past the edge of our observable universe. So our observable universe would be like, we'd be able to see out in the ocean, but not all the way to the horizon. So we can't see the point where they start dipping over because it's so big. That could be true too, like Brian Greene suggested. the universe, the observable universe is just a grain of sand on the universe's earth size space, then of course we wouldn't be able to see inside the observable universe the horizon of the big sphere, right? So that could make sense. Anyway, so this is the kind of stuff we talk about in chapter seven. This is one of like 20 riveting, in my mind, very interesting, crazy, bizarre. Things I want to keep reading to you right now because I find all this stuff so interesting, but I'm not going to Because we have to get drawing so we're gonna draw two drawings first is flatland so I described it as Get our chat back up here. All right Yeah, okay, so flatland is a book aliens exist you might say well, we don't know you know You still don't know it means a lot of weird promises that presidents are saying about like we have aliens. I don't know what's going on there. Okay, let's go back. Okay, so I described it as a great world of flowing rivers, expansive grasslands, and very nice people. It's two-dimensional, so all the features of land as well as the people and animals are entirely devoid of thickness. Now, I'm not going to actually, you can't, no, you can't actually have flat land because how would anyone, you'd have to jump over things. And maybe that's maybe we do that actually kind of funny. Maybe we show like a little bush and we show a person like Mario style jumping over it. I like that idea because that like emphasizes like it's not supposed to. Of course, you start actually thinking about how this works. It doesn't make any sense. That's not the point is that it's that's an analogy. So I think this should be silly drawing. I don't think anything about it should be trying to be realistic. It shouldn't even be normal. I don't think it should even be normal looking stick figures. It should be like sillier ones maybe. Now I'm thinking we draw the whole circle because that gets the point across. If I just draw a piece of land then it's... I mean like okay so there's two options here. I could you know have whatever. Oh I hate this so much. People who were here yesterday probably said I don't know why it defaults to the arrow and it didn't used to do that. Okay so I could just have something like this. Sorry it's my tablet is like... Okay, and I could basically just here have like tree or like a bush and like a squirrel and then a guy and then another guy and then like someone's like hopping over Bush here, you know, whatever. Obviously it would be a lot smaller and more detail. That's kind of interesting Do I need The other option is that we do something like this. I don't want to take you. So again, I say this in other live streams if you haven't been here. I don't want to do something like this. Not that big. Because that takes up half a page. And we can't do that very often. There are some half page drawings. There are a few full page drawings in the book. But they are very privileged positions for a drawing to get. And I don't think Flatland deserves it because it's just a metaphor that comes and goes. The time when you might do a big drawing is if it's like we're going to refer... reference this for the rest of the book. This is a core piece of the puzzle that we're going through here. Or we finish a chapter. Let's do a huge review drawing that's going to, you know, or chapter seven starts with a big cascading timeline that maybe we'll work on tomorrow or later tonight that basically takes us from the Big Bang all the way to the present to show where we've been. So that's the kind of thing full page drawing. Flatland, if I'm going to do a circle, it's going to be much, much smaller. So the characters will be much smaller. It'll be something like, let's make this, something like that size. And then things will be around the edge, you know. So now on one hand, the circle is kind of funny because it's just people upside down around the edge. On the other hand, and it does like show exactly what I mean by Flatland. It shows what I mean by Flatland, but of course now it looks like it's tiny and the people are so big compared to the planet, but it's not supposed to be realistic. The other option is more like it shows, you know, it makes it seem like it's a bigger planet. And you can maybe have a little bit bigger things going on. But then I think it just could look like any other stick figure scene a little bit, right? So I'm thinking, thinking, thinking that we do a circle. Because the point is it's silly. Okay, I think we're going to do a circle. And then let's also plan the next thing because sometimes you plan the second thing later and then you realize you wanted to do the first thing differently. So then the second thing is the 2D scientists are on a whiteboard or chalkboard or something. And again, it doesn't make sense because how can you draw in two dimensions, but we don't worry about that. They're showing flat universe with lots of circular planets. And I think it's what we try to draw like a sphere, which is hard for me, but I think we can try with circles. circular planets going, um, like the circle itself resides on this sphere that has lots of little planets on it. So I think it'd be little planets around the edge of like a bigger sphere. And then they would have like an arrow going around, something like that. Um, yeah. And maybe if we get there, so I, the other thing I've mentioned yesterday is I have an illustrator that we've hired. This great guy, Mark Watkinson. He's awesome. at illustrating and we've hired him to do some of the drawings that don't make sense for me to do like maps. I'm not very good at doing maps. Let's like the maps really great. They don't need to be like cartoony Wave of Y style. Make them really good maps, right? And he's doing a few other things like that. And thinking like maybe the actual sphere here, we'll see if I can do it. I don't know if I have the skills or like. What I could do to get the skills is watch a bunch of YouTube videos on the Illustrator tutorials. I'm not going to do that in the stream. So we'll see. But we can do it with the rest of the drawing. Then we can get 95% of the way done with these two drawings. And then maybe that last little thing, we'll see if I want to take a crack at it or not. Because it has to look like a sphere. It has to be very clear. And that sounds hard. So we'll see. Maybe someone who's a good at Illustrator in the comments can help me. Okay. So. Let's try this. So let's just get rid of all this. Now, a circle, I think I want it to be, let's just first try a real circle and see how that looks. Maybe this could be actually on the side. So here's how drawings can be. A drawing can take up like a strip. So let me show you something. So we talked about like, this is a typical drawing size, right? It's like a thin strip. We have a lot of those. That's like a... We call it like a 20% of the page. That's a 20%er. Then we have a lot that are like this, like kind of like a much bigger drawing. That's like a 30%er. Again, the rare like half page, half pager. And then of course the even rarer full pager, right? Now we also have asides. So like this is an aside. This is a way where actually verticals, you know, and this can be an aside. And in the asides, vertical space is less important because the text is going around it. but you can't go more than half you're not going to have an aside like this with little text on the side so it has to be like i think half is about my limit for an aside if it's going more than half the page um but the point is you want to be economical with space so if i'm doing this it's because i really need to use the horizontal space and then i'm trying as hard as i can to minimize vertical space that's what we did with the atmosphere this is a big ass drawing this is probably it but this is look i mean this atmosphere could have easily you can just picture all these layers could have been a half page at least but we got it into a third of a page yesterday. That was, you know, trying to be because we're going to maximize all the this space, but we're going to try to really be economical with vertical space. This is an even bigger one. This is probably going to be a half page drawing because there's just a lot going on, right? You want to see all the dots. But again, if this were a blog post, I probably would be a full page drawing. It would be it would be the length of it would be much bigger. This one here we did yesterday. That's a 20 percenter. Maybe that's a 25 percenter, but either way like always thinking about that So anyway, my point here is that flat land if either it was gonna be a line and We're gonna do it the way I said with this flat and then it would try to make it like a 20 percenter like nothing too high But I think if we're doing a circle then obviously we're not we don't want to do is just a circle in the middle of the page with nothing around it Right and we don't make the circle bigger. So this is an aside So we're gonna try to keep it to about half the size of the page And I think it can be kind of small. And then if it's an aside, that paragraph where I'm saying flatland is a great world of flowing rivers, fencing, whatever. The only thing about it is that it's two dimensional. So all the features, whatever. I think that would be next to that paragraph, right? So make it a little bit smaller. And because we need stuff on the sides here, so we can't go all the way to the edge. And I think that'll be about right. We can always shrink the whole thing down at the end a little bit if we need to. Now, the question is, do we want a hand-drawn circle? Do we want a perfect circle? I think the circle could be perfect with all the people hand drawn, but also we can roughen this maybe a little bit, just give it a little more personality. I don't usually do this. Usually I just draw or it's perfect, but I think this might be a case where let's just see. I don't even know if I can be able to do this well. Warp, no. Where is it? It's in, it's in, it's in distort and transform. Roughen. Okay, so that's obviously far too rough. Let's do smooth first of all. Now let's bring the detail way down. Way down to one. Let's do absolute. Size. Let's make it even smaller. How do we like that? It's a little imperfect. Is that too... Is that like no man's land with imperfect? Where it's like, it looks too good to be hand-drawn, but now it looks too bad to be a... That's... See, that's too much now. I'm calling it a circle, so I don't want it to be like too crazy. I don't know. I think we're in maybe no man's land here. Just looks a little more like a real planet if it's not a perfect circle What does this do that's way too much? That's too much now, right? I don't know I just know if I draw an actual circle. It's gonna just be a shit show Like is this let me stick in this a little I mean, I'll probably just fill it in and then this looks a little more like an asteroid like a little more like a circle, right? It might be too not circular, because again, it's not an asteroid. But it's tiny, so maybe it kind of is. Okay, let's just look for a second here at filling it in and see what that'll look like. What color should Flatland be? Maybe like a light gray. It's kind of a big... I'm gonna... Oops. Yeah, I think a light gray. It shouldn't be taking too much attention. The circle itself. That looks a little bit like a planet, right? It's a little bit rough, maybe. I kind of like it. That could be Flatland, right? And it's not, importantly, it's not. Does that, I wonder, my only worry here is does the roughing actually make it look 3D in a way we don't want it to? Because it's not, this is not 3D. This isn't a flat circle with zero thickness. Let's just try to take this away and see how that looks different. What looks better here? Oh, KD. Are you KD? Are you KDM? Just curious. I'd be very excited if you were. Okay. So I could change this later. So this is not something I have to stress too much about right now. You want to stress about the things where once you do it, you have to redo the whole thing if you change something. Oh my God. Okay. So Katie is like a very, very, very long time reader. Like from the early, early days. And she's come to meetups before and we've met and she's just like a beloved member of the Waipa Ply family. So, great to see you. Now, Illustrator is my friend. I will say, I told her, I've become a total convert. I get frustrated with it, but that's just because I don't know it that well. And yes, there are certain things that suck, but I am also, it's so much more freedom. Like, I just can't do this. kind of stuff i'm doing here in pixel meter you draw it and it's on the canvas um it's yeah i'm sure someone who's really good at like photoshop can do a lot of things well but vectors is the way to go look you zoom in and the resolution is perfect perfect stays the same doesn't matter how zoomed in you are um okay so i think i'm gonna go with the rocky one here even though i do fear that it might not look like a perfect circle Because of that it might not look like up like a 2d circle because of that But I think people will get the point and again, we can change that later. So I'm gonna hide this one for now This is our this is what we're gonna work with here Now Now I have to draw and I'm gonna have to rotate the canvas which I think is something you can do So let's draw we're not gonna I don't think they're gonna be like tiny right because I have to draw too much But it shouldn't be it shouldn't be like this big. Hey, Dr. Anne B, great to see you. You know, we had an idea for people who like these live streams that maybe when I'm doing posting again, which really will, believe it or not, happen once this book is done, maybe I'll live stream of the drawings to each post. Every week I'll do a live stream to do the drawings for that post and then post that publicly after the post comes out. So the people who come will get a sneak preview. and the people and everyone else will see it afterwards. Just an idea. Okay, so that's going to be, right? We could do that like bush, like tree and a squirrel and a guy and another guy and another guy and a house. I don't know how they'd get over that. I guess the house would have to have like a ladder, which is kind of funny. Yeah, maybe it'd be like one of these and you see someone climbing up over it. So that's one way. Okay, then we could also just go way smaller. Then I have to draw a lot more. You see, it would probably look better. It would probably look better, but I have to draw a lot more. Maybe I just do a bunch of like nondescript stick figures and don't draw that much. Because also remember on the big page, it's going to be quite small. I think it shouldn't be too big because then it just really doesn't look like a planet at all. So maybe somewhere in the middle here. House Tree Circles, a diagnostic test used for kids. I didn't know that. I don't even know what that means exactly, but that's interesting sounding. Yes. Where are you, Charlotte? That you went to work and came back after 15 hours. You must be somewhere far away from the U.S. No, I'm not still here. I'm back. It would be awesome if I were... At some point, I am the kind of psycho who will do like a... 36 hour live stream at some point like a marathon that'll be fun but not not this week um okay singapore yeah all right so let's do this i'm procrastinating because this part is hard now do i want to have any floor like do we want any the stroke to be any darker do we want like any of this going on right or do we want like a thin black one let's just first i want to go black i don't think so right I don't see why the surface could be green. Maybe the surface is nice and grassy. I could try something really bold here, but I'm scared. Which is, what if I copied and pasted, made the whole thing green, and then roughened this. Now I made this roughen like that at all. Wait, detail. Yeah. Okay, wait. Could this work? Could this work for like grass? Oh, I think it works. I can't believe this worked. Is this what I want? Till smooth corner. Absolute? No. I mean, it's not perfect grass. But what if I did 150? Can I do more than 100 here? No. I don't know why they limit me here. Size 0.5, 0.8. Now it looks like little trees. which isn't going to work. So I want to have the people bigger. I don't want it to look like trees. I mean, you could do these little trees and have everything be really tiny. But again, like, you know, I could do that and spend the full day right now doing this. But like you just, you can't do everything to the max or else you'll never finish the book. And just like, you know, I try to, I go way more like max than I think most people would on a lot of things. But even I have my limits here. I just wanted to look a little grassy maybe. So, okay. So here's the idea here. So I'm going to go like this. I'm going to make this 0.5, I think. I'm just going to try it. And then I'm going to put this behind. I'm going to take the thing off this right now. I'm going to try it. You know, we'll see how it looks in the end. But I think it looks like real grassy terrain more than a perfect grassy circle would look. Okay, so let's try that. So let's hide this one and this is our new guy. And let's just put this in the middle for now. And let's lock it. All right. I mean, I guess we could also just experiment with the color of the planet. The gray is a little gloomy, but like, again, I don't want to do, obviously it's not going to be. I posted a story about sitting in a public place writing about some people nearby. That's true. That's turned into a very it was a really disastrous day in my life and I wrote about it in a post called An Actual Thing That Actually Happened I think it's a comic okay, so wait I'm gonna go here That's too that makes it look too much like a plain circle So we can go what if it's darker? That's not good either. That looks like a big black hole. Maybe the gray I had was good. I mean Could it be a light green? Now again, it looks a little weird because it doesn't emphasize that it looks like you could walk across this and that you can't. It's prettier, but it doesn't look like a planet anymore. That looks like a planet, I think. I think I had it right. Yeah, that just makes no sense. I mean, there's a lot of ways to make this prettier, but pretty is we're trying to make it look like a planet. And so, unfortunately, um, okay. How do you want someone to feel like, do you want us to want to be on the planet or not so much? I think, yes, I think it's going to look like a little funny, idyllic cartoon place, but it's mostly going to look absurd. Which, thank you, Donna. I may take you up on that. It's, yeah, which is, the point here is not, is silly. We're being silly in this moment. So sometimes you're being silly, sometimes you're not. And this is a moment when we're being silly. Okay, so. Now we got our terrain. Now, it's a big question how big these things are because once you do it, now you're stuck with that size. So I'm going to try... Why is this freaking out? Okay. Oh, it's doing this thing. I'm just going to quickly... Sometimes this happens. I'm going to close Illustrator and reopen it. It's always risky, but okay. Close. Don't save. I didn't do anything. Just save. I get really nervous. I hate when it does this when I don't do anything and it asks me to save. Don't save that, I'll tell you that. We're gonna come back to these animals later. Don't ask me to save if I hadn't made any changes because it stresses me out because now I don't know if I made a change by accident and I don't want to save into it, but what if I forgot that I did something? It's bad Illustrator quality. Other things don't do that as much as Illustrator does that. Okay, so let's reopen this. We are here in Flatland 1. Sometimes you have to Illustrator just starts flickering and that's what I know I got to close it and reopen it. It usually makes everything much nicer. Okay, so again, this is going to be on the side of a page about this big. And I think, I think like we can do like 15 things around the edge of that size. I think that's good, right? Because if you go bigger, but now it becomes just like so small, the planet. And you could go smaller, of course, but then it becomes too laborious. So let's try it. Let's try this guy. But this is one example of something you can't really fix once you've done it. Not really. You kind of have to just do everything over. Okay. So I might even, to be consistent here, I have an idea to be consistent. I might do a circle like this. That's just for my reference about like how high people should be. How a house or something could go higher. So like in that vicinity. Okay, so I'm just going to have that there. Very light. Very light, so I can see it barely. But it'll just help me. Now lock, put this in the back. And then I'm going to lock it as well. Lock these two things. Okay. Now, let's get going here. Okay. So, I'm going to start at the top. now what are the things you want to put in i want to put in people i want to put in a house with a ladder because i think that's fine i think it's funny to show how they get around so someone's jumping over a bush mario style or decided that someone is um like maybe there's a tree with a squirrel going up it and i already have a squirrel i've drawn for this book so i can just reuse that um it can't be a huge tree because how would they get over it but anyway And then there's, I think, like a little house with a ladder and then some other just nondescript bushes. And I don't know how you do water here. I said flowing rivers, but I have to probably change. The text can change if I don't do rivers in this. I'll just take that out in the text. I don't know how you could possibly have a flowing river in two dimensions. I mean, yeah, it doesn't make sense. Bushes, trees, squirrel, people, house. Yeah, okay. So let's just do that. It's gonna look like a kid's drawing kind of intentionally even more than my normal drawings do. Squirrels are involved. Yeah, so I'm gonna get the squirrel now just to show you because I'm very proud of this. This was done for an interlude chapter, a tiny little interlude chapter. And I will not explain the context. That is a surprise, but where is it? Okay, here it is. See? So now. Could use this tree maybe but it looks a little the bushiness is not great. It's supposed to be completely 2d Pull him here and group them together Keep it in the side. Do I want any other animals while we're here because I have a lot of I've drawn a ton of animals in this book because of the evolution chapter mostly More animals than I've ever drawn in my life or that I will ever hopefully draw again They're hard animals. I think maybe It could be like animals into this. I have drawn a lot of microorganisms, sponge, worm, sharks, and fish, and a lizard. A lizard could be kind of cool, but this lizard looks too 3D. Dinosaurs, et cetera. No, I think we'll just do our squirrel. Okay, so let's do this. Person. Oh, we lost our music. There is a koala. I'm glad you asked. Let's first get our music. The music gets to the end of this playlist and then it... Let's do one more round through this playlist and then we can... So... So... These are a bunch of new animals I just drew. And the reason there's doubles and triples is I'm testing eyes. We did a poll yesterday about which eyes we like the most. I mean, I could put one of these guys all look a little 3D. They're a little too good. For this particular starfish is like something I'm going for like utter 2d simplicity The squirrel looks like it could be 2d I think more so. I mean the snail is pretty funny Let's bring a snail and how about that? Not the googly-eyed snail. I think we'll do it. Well, we'll un-google his eyes in a minute Koala is kind of funny, I guess, but again, it looks a little 3d. A snail could jet you could actually have just like a 2d snail See, I feel like that squirrel actually could look 2D. Let's un-Google his eyes. Oh, I've got the wrong dog here. So there's multiple ways to un-Google his eyes. We could remove this, which is, I think, what makes it extra zany. I want him to look 2D, though, and I'm a little concerned. I mean, it's pretty 2D because his face is, like, facing this way. You know, he couldn't be too much... I mean, this guy's a profile, but also... Could be like just like flat like the same exact thing on both sides. So I don't know. We'll see how it looks at the end So that's one way to ungoogle and then I could go full on Google like this But that's that's too ungoogly for me. He loses his personality Right. I mean he's also becomes a little funnier in a way But there's obviously an issue there, but um, I feel like snails I mean, I could also be really silly and put the eyes up here This would be like the silliest possible thing I could do. I mean, I don't know if you know what that is now, but it could be just like a funny creature that lives in... No, too silly. Okay, we'll leave it like this for now. A tad smaller. All right, so we've got a couple friends who have to be way smaller. So if you shrink something, you have to either, either you want all that, there's two settings. One is... I want all the lines to say the same thickness when I do this, which obviously does not work here. Or you can have a scale with it, but sometimes you don't want that. Like if I'm doing a head circle and I'm doing a bunch of stick figures and one of their heads is too big, but they're all the same thickness and I shrink the head down. I don't want the line to get thinner when I do that because he has a thinner head than everyone. So I'm toggling this back and forth and I wish there were a keyboard shortcut for how to do this. General and then I go to scale strokes and effects. I want that on. right now. So then I can shrink him down. And he will now scale, you see, without, the lines will look thinner accordingly. Okay, now on the big page, that might be too small to see. So that's a little too small. See, we can't go too little with anything here, which isn't actually good to know before I do my guise. This is the full page. I'm going to work like what looks like the book size on my computer. I don't know, it probably is looking. I think that's, I think that snail's okay. And I think the squirrel could be probably about that size as well. Which means the people probably need to be a little bit bigger. I think I need to go a little bigger with the people. If that's a snail, you know, a person's got to be like this height. So maybe we expand this out a little bit, a tad. But you know, if you want to remember, if this isn't a side, then very quickly, you know. If we're saying this should only take up half a page, then the whole thing gets shrunk down again. So you gotta be... Okay, so I think what's gonna happen is the people are gonna be not that big compared... The snail's gonna be too big, proportionately. But again, we are not in a serious place right now. Plus, it's kind of funny. Maybe there's giant snails in Flatland. All right, let's do it. Here we go. So they have to be exactly on the surface. Because again, here this suggests he's like on a 3D field. If it's not really cute. Weird. All right, so we've got a guy. I might... Okay, so... Okay, I think he should have a girlfriend. So, the example of like... I don't want to scale effects right now because I don't want the head to. So I'm going to go back here and undo that for this. I want to make the head about the same size without making the thickness bigger by expanding. See, now it always stays, it doesn't scale with it. All right, now this is his, this is his girlfriend. Now it's a tiny bit too big. This is the whole thing is quite silly. All right, now I think they can hold hands in a funny way. This 2D handhold, but I wonder if we can do something funnier, like more obviously weird. Like what if I, all right. So I think it's like this is their weird hand-holding technique. You know, you really never know when you start a book or a post, especially a book, where the hell this project is gonna take you. When I was like, I'm gonna write a story about, I'm gonna do a book about everything. I was all excited, there's gonna be so many different things in this book about everything. And I had all these cool... things that one was like oh i'm gonna write about this and this and this and i can get this topic in this i can do every topic i like never did i think i was gonna be doing this two-dimensional stick figures holding hands you know you just never know i mean lord no when i was really what's our problem never did i consider i was gonna be drawing like big orange giants and stuff so you figure that out as you go along okay you see i think that's like a funny 2d handhold Maybe it's need a little more white space to emphasize what's going on here. It's gonna be small. Hmm. Problem is it's gonna be so small that it will it might just look like they are holding normal hands. That's okay. The idea is they can't go past each other, right? The hand blocks the other hand. Now like what are we doing? It looks like he's like giving her something. You know what? I think I did this wrong. Sorry. Start over. I think I'm gonna go more like... Yeah, I think like that's how they'd hold hands And it makes sense they'd actually be touching Okay, kind of gets the point across I think Okay, it might be a little small but you know I think it has to be small to No, I don't like this lady. I don't like what I'm like, please I don't want singers involved It just distracts me and every time I play this she pisses me off. All right Yeah, it looks like she's crushing her knuckles. Yeah. Yeah, it's not great. It's not ideal. But you know what? Flatland is not an ideal place for anyone, including them. Okay, the only other option is if I just do like a, you know, like a, like a, like a high five. That might, this does look a little, okay, let's try. Yeah, I think that's better for just clarity of like what's happening. Fine. And I think they're like, Can they even look at each other? I guess I could either do like this, you know, that type of thing. Or they could just be like really, really stick figure-y. Like, you know, I think they're looking at each other. They're like in love. Maybe I'll even do a little heart. So, no. Face circles, we make, sorry, mouths, we make a little bit smaller. So it can't do this right because that then it looks like he's looking at her. You can't do that. They only have a face that can so and She's like I see something so looks a little bit like they look inside Maybe what if she's just like and the joke is like the eyes go over here, you know So I was like a little big Maybe not from far away though. I mean other high-fiving, but that's okay. I put the love thing it might make it Okay So now she needs some hair. A 2D hair look. Can't be like a ponytail, right? I guess it has to just be like... Okay. Now let's do a little... Oh, that was Illustrator's fault. It like glitched on me. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know exactly how... This is kind of a lot of figuring it out as you go with this particular... Because we're inventing a land. that has rules that we're still trying to figure out. There's just one giant constraint, which is that there's no third dimension. It does make you appreciate in general. I mean, like seriously, I think a big shout out to the third dimension because it would be so constraining to not have it. I mean, three body problem people are fully aware of the perils of losing the third dimension. All right, that's enough time on this heart. Did I make it look weirder? I think I made it look weirder just down at the bottom here. All right, okay. Now, we got these guys. We can't be like, we have to be a little, let's do some nondescript bushes. Let's first do the main things and then we'll fill in the space with nondescript like rocks and bushes. Okay, so now I know other things I want. I want someone hopping a bush. So let's just put that over here somewhere. So now how do I rotate the artboard? Let's remind ourselves here. I have a dock with every keyboard shortcut and stuff in Illustrator that I just referenced and I searched through. So rotate artboard, shift H, see? So I go like this, shift H, and then I can go like this. Look at that, see, Illustrator. I love features that are useful like this. Okay. Now I don't even know if I want I think actually I might want these guys that kind of on the side I don't I think them being at the top is a little like I think it's funnier if they're kind of sideways so I think actually maybe the top might be this well we'll just be in the side that later what direction it goes in but Okay, I'm gonna do a little bush Now let's make this a nice green bush and let's make the outside a darker green make it thinner Okay, I don't think it's got the little like internal things because then it looks like it's 3D. I mean, snail? No. He's waiting. The snail will be somewhere in here. Now I'm going to do a guy on top of this. So just remind myself how big these people are. They're like the full height of that. So this guy's going to be... Mine's a little thick, you know? But I have to change it on the other ones too then if I do that. You know, like I feel like picture this whole guy, but you know. I think when I'm really far away, I think the thick lines are okay. I think it's actually okay. Do you like that better? I think so. Okay, now, I think again it's kind of funny if he has to face forward. They're kind of like in the shit with being in 2D all the time. So again, he's kind of like, maybe he's even just like, no smile for this guy, neutral. See that's still too much of a smile. First of all, let's get this to the right size. That's 0.8 actually is right. These should be 1.2. Now this maybe if I... Now I need to do some lines here. I'm gonna close this. I think I had a slack huddle open from this morning's session and I think that was slowing things down. All right. Okay. Let me just be a little closer together. So we got that guy hopping over a thing. Now, I think I want a house with a ladder. Is that going to be too complicated? No, let's try it. Okay, so let's rotate this again. We'll do that over here. We'll do another person just like climbing over the house, another person just like standing here. And then we'll do a tree with a squirrel. And then we'll throw a snail in, we'll throw some bushes in. I think that'll be good. Okay, so shift H again House over here So I hate when it overly smooths like that. Maybe that's a wonky Flatland house. It's not exactly what I had in mind, but I kind of kind of like it now I Mean, yeah, I don't really know how a house works here at all. It doesn't make any sense at all actually but We'll pretend it does because it's just Flatland. It's just Flatland. I think we just make this a color. I mean, it's like almost like a... What colors do we not have on here? What color? So you don't want to... I don't like using the whole rainbow unless I have to. I just feel like then it looks too... It's too overwhelming and it looks... So I like to pick a few colors for the palette here. Maybe like Flatland is silly. Maybe this is a yellow house. Kind of like that. Maybe orange house. Maybe yellow. I need to show that this is a house in some way, but you can't really do a window, can you? Because how would you ever I guess I'll do it and people can just figure it out how it would work. I need to do a window. So Oops Doesn't make any sense of course really in zany land here. Let's make these cross things smaller and make them a little less bendy. Okay. This one is really, I don't know what happens in the windows. I'm gonna make it clear though, so it's like paper. So what we're gonna do is we're gonna make these white background. Yeah, you see? So like, they're just see-through. And the door makes no sense, but we'll just make it a nice color here. Yeah, I mean, I would live. I would live in this hat. This hat looks fantastic to me. And now the joke here is that this is the kind of Illustrator stuff I don't like, where I can't just take a region formed by two lines and color it. You have to like, it just really, filling in color is extremely annoying in Illustrator. The InPixelMator. Okay, that doorknob's a little big. Can you see it now from far away now? Is it too small? I guess now it should be big. Keep remembering how small all of this is. So the house works because it's simple so you can see it from far away. You know, this is going to be like about the size of like a lime, maybe like a plum. Like it's not the size of like a melon or an orange. On the real page, this is going to be like a little bigger. Like the size of, I don't know what to say, it's smaller than a baseball. It's like a plum, a little like a plum. So really small. That's why you need just big things can't have anything too detailed So now I want to try to do this just an idea to think like how would they get over this? How would he literally get over here? It's flat. You can't go buy it, right? So I was like, maybe they would have like a funny ladder So I need to do a ladder in a different color Maybe like a metallic color And also the ladder can't have like rungs the normal way Yeah, kind of like the waviness of it and then this or is it a totally different color is like a blue ladder i don't know why it would be a blue ladder this color okay and then this has to be perfectly resting on the edge here all right now i need to do rungs and my idea for this is going to be so small and far away maybe it has to be thicker it's just very hard to see anything uh that's not really like clear so i think this is too thin Now rungs, I'm just going to do big clear rungs as well since it's not. And the rungs are just going to be, oh my god it's so slow. Rungs are just going to be like, maybe they're all a little long. The problem with rotating the canvas is like it really screws everything up. That's not going to work. Maybe they're not too long. How about that? Okay. Let's just make them a little straighter. Now we got a guy on here. And he is a man. He is a normal man. He's a lady. This is a guy. Male stick figures are just funnier, is the fact of it. So I think I was at the same size as those heads, not at all. Okay. So this is our guy. He's a little big. The house is a little small. The house should be bigger and think. I hate to say it. Okay, so let's just do this. Is everything highlighted? This is really wonky with the... I don't know. Oh, maybe I can go like this. I can just hold down shift. But then I do want to scale the stroke effects, right? I liked it that way, right? I almost just tried to go the opposite direction than I think. I guess that looks okay. But I do think I should... I do think the rest of it can stay. Now, this... Oh my god. So that's that Struggling more than I want him to be struggling Okay, and then I'm gonna put make his face white so that I could then Now, remember, nothing can ever go over that in 2D land. Yeah, wooden ladders, not a bad idea. I'll try that in a second. Yeah, there, it's like, you can't have a, you can't have a ladder, right? You have to have, like, think about if you're 2D, you can only go up, like, the sides. Like, say, you know, Mario, it's kind of like, okay, his head's a little big for his body. Let's just make it a little smaller. Now it's a little thick, isn't it? Okay. Now, I think here is where we, again, have our kind of our joke where, again, he can't turn to the side. So he's just like, thin this out. It's far away. I'm not sure it's entirely clear what's happening, but I think people can get the point. So highlight when you're in this weird angle. Okay, so if I did brown, it might be better. Okay, we'll do that brown later. of course. Dark brown is better but it might from far away blend with black too much. I'll do light brown. And I do want it to touch. I'll also highlight him. Oh shit! His arm can't be behind his head at all, can it? Okay, we have to fix this. It's 2D land. Here we go, it can touch, it just can't overlap. Alright. No overlap anywhere. Alright. Now. We've got, let's do one, let's do a little tree. And then just, I'm going to do just, I'll just do a couple of stick figures standing. I'll do our snail. And I'll do some bushes and then that'll be that. Or we're getting there. I would say, no, not that. I would say we are three quarters done with this. All things considered, including the planning parts, which takes forever. How is he going to fit through the door is an extremely good question that I am not. It's like you need like a physicist to answer that. I'm not qualified. All right. Do a tree. Really simple tree. But again, it has to be a 2D tree. So what would that look like? I guess it would just look like a tree that I would draw anyway. It's a little big. It's just a smaller tree. It's a little small. Now I need to emphasize that this is, I think the point here is to emphasize that this is like sitting on top of this. So I need to actually shape this to the thing. It's not. It's like sitting atop a stump. No overlap. Okay. What's going on there to me? This is unacceptable. How dare you? Here. Then I need to actually technically be over here where you can't need grass coming up from behind it. Okay. I think that's it. It's a super simple flatland tree. And there is a squirrel that I think is on this tree now. He's huge. You see, maybe the tree has to get bigger. Maybe the squirrel just gets really stupidly small, but I don't love that. See, as it gets bigger, we're gonna quickly get eaten into, it's just gonna lose its ability to be in a side, which is not great. Because now we're going to take up more book space or we're going to just have to shrink it to an aside and then everything gets shrunk and then it becomes hard to see stuff again that I've now made big enough to see. Oops. It's just... Now it's not scale strokes and effects, which is a problem just now. I did want to do that, but that's okay. Well, actually it is a big deal because I don't want to have to deal with all the... I've got it really precise there against the edge of the stump. Let's do this. That's so weird because of that. Okay, now the squirrel is going to be... He could just be on the ground, you know? He's going to be huge here. Maybe he just needs to be small, and that's okay. I was picturing him like this, flush against the edge. Also kind of funny if he's like... Although he was in a tree in the last drawing, right? We must not have him be in the same place. Maybe it is the same squirrel, but it's not because that was a 3D squirrel and it's a 2D squirrel. Yeah, okay. Now, I think that's the main things I wanted to do. Now, I think at that point we do some stick guys. We do a snail. Let's put the snail in. Where is the snail going to go? Well, what's the top? I don't know yet. The snail. The snail's on his own journey, you know? He's not hanging out with us. people okay I like him there um now let's just fill in some other shit let's put another let's put some girl with funny hair standing here and a bush a bush bush and let's just see how that works remember they're about the height of this thing so let's just be consistent I guess I could put another house somewhere now I need to scale strokes and effects back on affectionism Such a nuisance. I think she's literally doing nothing. Her head's a little huge. Okay, now her hair should be zany, I think. Okay, I got an idea. She's gonna have like this thing going on. Now the zany part. Is that insane? A little insane. That's a little ridiculous. What if we ditched one of them? Alternatively, kind of like that actually. More than the three things. She's just got a really big bun going on. Yeah, I'm down with her. She's enjoying her life in Flatland. I'll use the right side. Now, let's just fill in some gaps here. I've got to finish this so we can not... I want to be done with this and do something different with Mark, I think. Oops. Right? Like, I can spare him. Although, I think, actually, as an engineer, I would like to hear his commentary on whether this... you know, satisfies the laws of 2d physics. All right, let's uh, oh, I hate when it does this, it smooths too much. I know I can turn that down. All right, Bob Ross would be like, this is a happy little bush. He would have done like an extremely realistic looking evergreen tree in the time that I just took to do that bush. Let's do a little mushroom over here. maybe a little rock here we'll color these in in a minute why is that suddenly this color am i doing something a little flat piece of ground here so much smoothing you're going this small it's just hard and this isn't like my background by the way that's just i have it on um i have it on you know auto switch so it's just some kind of it's like one of the hundreds of things and this just goes up that's the one today uh in case you thought i was like obsessed with like Vermont ski mountains. Let's make a funnier bush here. I mean, cactus is kind of funny. Okay. One more area to put some shit in, and it's over here. I mean, I guess over here too. Damn, there's a lot of... Flatland's big. A little too big. It's a little too big, Flatland. And I guess I could put another house. Probably should put another house, right? It's just weird to have one house in all of Flatland. So that could be... quick though. This way. Okay. Now, like this. Different shape. Okay. Now, let's reshape this guy. Silly now? What are we doing? I'm not going crazy. I don't like this over here. This got really weird. It's still a house, right? We're not like in full crazy land. I mean, we are. Is that just reversed? It's too reversed. It's a crazy color for our house. I think it's crazy. That's a little too crazy. You just have like a wooden door. It's so zany. It's a nice color, but it's just a little bit wacky. But if you go here, it's getting too close to the other one, maybe. I mean, I could do a brown house. It's kind of normal. It's a little too normal for... Green just matches everything else, but I mean, it's a different green. I could do that one, I guess. Maybe now I can do yellow here, because I kind of do like... All right. Should we have another window? I think another window would be good. Right? Alter this one. We're getting close. I feel like that's the last, like, hard thing. Last, like, time consuming. I keep trying to press Shift H to do this, and I press Command H because it's a habit. Okay, what is still left to be filled in? I guess it could be a couple more things. Do we even need things? I'm just going to do one thing, maybe here. Maybe that's enough then. That's too strange. There could be a flower. Lost our music. You know? I feel like it needs another... I feel like it's just a little barren. But I mean, it should have like... I probably should put like seven more stick figures around the edges. But it's just, you know... Yeah. It is flat. It just looks like it's a population of like six. And that's okay. Like, I should just put a bunch more people. Maybe I will. People don't take that long. I could probably do one every three minutes and be done in 15 with five more people and then it would just look a little more filled out. Okay, so this is now back to upright. Okay, let me go deal with... I'm going to get a mark on the line now. Yeah, children. Okay, so what I want to do now is I'm going to just put on an away screen for a second and I'll be back. 5.30 is wrong. Hold on, I'm trying to edit this thing. Here. Back at... I'm gonna say 1.10. 2.10. Okay. Now, I'm gonna say okay. Am I paused? Or is I just looking down? Can you hear me? Can you hear me? No? Yes? Oh. Let me make sure that's not my... I think I've got it. Okay. So can you hear me now? I can hear you. Zoom audio, zoom. Okay, we can hear both of you. Can you hear me? We can hear you loud and clear. Hey, I can't believe it's working. I'm like blown away that anything could possibly work. I need a confirmation you can hear me though. I can hear you. Oh good. Because I kept saying, Tim, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. But then you weren't responding and I was like... I'm gonna, um, I just want your volume to be a little higher for me. So also the stream crashed and then it was fine somehow. I'm gonna turn the music down a little bit. All right. What? I don't hear music. But don't worry about that. Please don't make it so that I can. We're good. Like, we're rolling. Yeah. Maybe I'll just play some music on my end. Music is loud again, though. Okay. Um, I'm gonna just lower that. bit lower this music a little bit for everyone and we'll um we've got zoom audio because i think at the right i think we're there all right cool mic and then lower desktop a little bit all right hey mark yeah okay you're there okay here we are so here you are and can you see the screen No, but you know what I was thinking? Because I'm just in Zoom. If you send me a link, if you text me a link, I'll watch what you're... I feel like this is going to be the easiest way. Okay. And you just mute that because you're on my phone. 100%. I'll mute it. Okay. This is good. It took 17 minutes. I thought it was going to take 10. It took 17. But you know what? Here we are. Yeah. Let the record say that wasn't procrastination on your end. You were getting after it. And I've already done that today. I feel like that's just on brand. Now, what I'd like... The first thing... Well, okay, there's a lot of things to talk about. First of all, we're going to have to hear about Ted. But secondly, you're going to have to comment on my current drawing. On it? And then I think we can figure out where to go from there. By the way... Yeah. i'm genuinely really excited to read this book good i mean it's just up your alley it's so up my alley and you have offered to be a beta reader and i yeah i'm gonna take you up on it um i feel like is it too late are we getting like the final draft doing any real beta readers till i'm done with um illustrations because you can't understand what the book is without that Wait, this does pose a slight problem, Tim. I haven't read a book in like seven years because I listen to like four books a month and I don't have an attention span anymore. No, no, no. It's fine because you will have the PDF of the thing and you can just like scan through and just see drawings as you go. Although I haven't read the audiobook yet. Sorry. Yeah, but no, I have a trick for this. I've actually done this with other friends. which i just put it into one of these apps that although i won't do that for yours because then maybe an app it's it's like local on my device and then it reads it out loud yeah it's not gemini i do mostly um and i want i wish there was an audiobook software and it probably is somewhere but it's just not prominent so no one will use it but software where you could listen and then it's like on the screen it shows you the current drawing so it's like ding and there's like an uh you hear like yes that's so good right yeah why the hell not 95 of books have no illustrations or or they'll there's like a science book that has like a few little charts and stuff but like they're not like critical to the book like they are in mine that's such a good idea that feels just like a feature and then you could just check a box when you upload it on like audibles and that this is like that's a cool distinguishing feature that i'd want to use audible over another platform for you know and it's not like people are listening on like some mp3 device like everyone is listening on a on a device with a giant screen a hundred percent right this is such an obvious such an obvious feature right there um yeah so maybe what i'll do is i'm sure there is software that does that just like more boutique software maybe i'll find that and then be like you can listen on audible but and have a accompanying pdf you can listen on this and like it's way better and just i think a lot of my readers would be like yeah i'll just do it on the good thing yeah and that's like a good opportunity for that company that not a lot of people know to like give you a really good discount on theirs because you're going to be like people to the platform uh yeah yeah exactly just let's vibe code that dude Oh, I'm not. I can see. Oh, I see what happened here. Something got screwed up. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, hold on. Hold on. Here he is, but he's gotten small. Okay, here we go. Why are you so skinny? You're like a lion. That's me. Where is... Are you behind me now? No. Okay, let me... Oh, is it because I resized this window, maybe? What changed? Did you... Yeah, what did you do? Ah, wait a sec. What is that? Okay. Oh my god, you're upside down. This is a disaster. But you're here. You're just upside down. What if I turned my computer upside down to solve it? Yeah, you have to... I'd be okay with that. It'd be kind of fun. This is a real shit show, you know? Let's just see. Here you know, you're all the way to fuck up there. Oh Yeah Now here you supposedly are but I don't know where dude how the hell am I upside down? That's hilarious. It doesn't make any sense It doesn't make any sense now. I don't know like where you are What did you did you just resize it? What did you do? I don't know. You know what I'm gonna do? Tim, you say this, but you're touching the computer. I feel like you should know what just happened. Got it. Got you. Okay. I don't see it yet. You look great. Here we go. There you are. There I am. Done. Okay. I made a mistake of resizing the zoom on my screen, which God forbid I have any freedom to do anything without something getting messed up. Now, okay. Now, can you see the chat, by the way, in case someone has a question for you in particular? Yeah, yeah. Now. And, okay. Okay. What's up, chat? What up, chat? I like talking to chat when I'm on a stream. I know. All right. So anyway, so as we were saying, we need a better audio book situation. And... I think it's worth working on. Maybe I'll just like build the app myself. It seems like it can't be that complicated. It's like you need to... Yeah, let's do it. Let's vibe code it. We can do that. You need to have something that plays audio tracks. That's as basic as it gets. And then something that can have a bunch of image files embedded in it, like uploaded to it that are marked to appear at different times. It's basically a slide deck. that is connected to the slides or the timing of the slides is connected but it just can't be that complicated um i'm actually i want to try this because i've been looking for like a good excuse to vibe code something right because it's like yeah if it's not like i'm gonna vibe go like a snowman penguin game it's like i'm just not that motivated that's not interesting but like something that actually solves an issue this would be a fun one to try Totally. I mean you could even you literally just record put the audio book over YouTube like make it a YouTube audio on a YouTube video and then just have the things change as they go but the only problem there is that you know people like to be able to I don't know put it on the people have their audio apps that are useful I guess you can still you can do 2x or whatever on one point whatever on yeah wait hold on hold on this actually is a pretty damn good idea I feel like that actually does because you If you have YouTube, you can actually turn it off and just listen to it. It'll play a video. And then when it comes, you just have to have a tone when it comes to something to look at. And then you just leave that on the screen. Oh, now we don't have anything to vibe code. Let's just vibe code YouTube. I mean, I feel like there's got to. Here's the issue is that YouTube is free and the publisher won't like that. Right. No, to be fair, I was. solving my own issue specifically i mean for me it would be fine i just want people to read the book and i think plenty of people will buy the paper book i mean if the audio were free that would be fine with me but i think that random house will like murder me yeah no i agree or no here's the issue though is you still need to convert it you still need like an ai to read it out loud to me and there are like text to speech things right but if you upload it to youtube you're not gonna You have to be uploading and create something. I just want to take your PDF that has pictures. I wanted to put it into an app and then it could convert that, right? Yeah. The one problem I have run into with this is someone sent me a draft of the book. At the bottom, there's serial codes and page numbers and stuff. And it's real annoying because every time it would get there, it would be like, you know. And then they came upon the cabin. PQRNSLLPQQM64. Yeah. The other thing is that even you're talking about like the AI version like even having a professional audiobook person read my book is I can't handle it. Oh really? No I have to read it myself. No and that makes sense because you're like a known person like that's I would not want to hear it in anyone else's voice. I just know how I want things to be said and it would bother me too much to have to have someone reading it. not exactly how I intended it in my exact... Yeah. I think sometimes they're... It's a little like if I had someone do my illustrations and they did better illustrations, they looked better, but it would be all wrong because it wouldn't be my style. Oh, I mean, for sure. They're probably going to be better reading it. They'll actually... They're a professional at this, but it's just going to feel like it's too good. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't fit the vibe. That's how I feel. Yeah, like a lot of your I think humor also comes in like your timing like the way you say it and intonation so I think that would You would lose that though. Don't go that cheap, you know Philip Kurzgesagt route none of that shit I instead like sexy British actor, you know Philip needs to start narrating all those Yeah, honestly that guy The Yeah, so anyway, this is something to figure out. It's a good thing to figure out because you have a specific need for it when you're going to be beta reading. I'm excited. You also can just give you the PDF and you can also just like skim through it and like look at the... No, I legitimate... How many pages is the book once it's like published? Because I'm not going to lie. The problem with us was pretty damn thick. Or what's our problem was pretty damn thick. Sure was. This book is going to be longer. Why? That was a 14-hour audiobook, and this is shaping up to be like an 18 or 19-hour audiobook. But you know what? I'm genuinely... I'm here for it. You know the book I keep listening, especially once you make an audiobook? I will do it. Like, Sapiens is my... I can't sleep at night. like because you read it once and it has all these like interesting things and that book is one of those books and i know this isn't like a hot take a lot of people feel this way but it really like updated my frameworks in a lot of different ways me too and and then i realized when i i listened to it again it's like i either forgot that part or i missed that point you know like just the other night i was going to bed oh no this was actually the selfish gene which i do with that one as well it talked about in the selfish gene i don't know if you remember this or know this or not but You even humans you are more protective and I figured out how they measure it they found evidence for this of your sister's kids than your brother's kids so they have a quarter of your DNA so Technically you would be just as protective of them as they are your grandchild if you just as a proxy say The degree that something has your DNA is the degree that you want it to live on and and so you know The other thing is that like if you have what I don't think people quite realize this a lot of people like you are exactly 50-50 DNA from each parent. But so just and just just say your dad has okay exactly 50-50 from his parents so 50% of his DNA from his mom. So now you get 50% of his but that might be 70% of that 50 is from his his mom and only 30 is from his dad so you have exactly half of each of your parents but the the half you get might not be exactly divided even in fact it almost certainly isn't so you're sure certain grand if you have four grandparents you're related to far more than others and then when you get to great grandparents you're related to some great grandparents like almost not at all and other ones like as much as like a grandparent and then your cousins If you have a bunch of first cousins, you're related to some of them way more than others. And you can actually, I think, test this with like 23andMe now. You can see which family members you're most related to. Well, I wonder if that would... I doubt that would translate to like actual behavior because you wouldn't be able to determine that, right? But I think instinctually you would. The sisters, brothers thing, I think... You don't think that means you're closer to one grandparent versus another, right? I wonder if the grandparent who you're more related to loves you a little more and doesn't know why or not. Yeah, I could understand the instincts. The sister-brother thing will always repeat over and over. So there is an evolutionary pressure for that to be rewarded with instincts. But the grandparent, I would be so shocked if your brain can somehow intuit DNA. That feels like a... Like there's no evolutionary pressure to support that it feels like. Yeah. Because yeah, because your brain wouldn't necessarily know. But you know, a parent might like feel a little differently about a kid or grandparent that looks more like them than not than not. I don't know. And also even you have two kids now, right? I have a bigger overlap of like the say you happen to get the same 50 much more of the same 50% from your dad that they did versus another, you know, so like the only people who are like equally related to are your two parents. You're like half and you're related to them equally. siblings and everyone else like it's a little if you look at the actual genome and how much of it is yeah yeah yeah you know what i also just realized about someone said this at a ted talk here and i was like oh like the the he milled about the eggs your mom has which like number sperm your dad makes um screen's glitching out you still got me right yeah okay okay we're good um it's the equivalent of how many grains of sand there are on on the it's it's like it's picking a single like the fact that you exist is a single grain out of all the grains of sand on earth and what's so what's interesting is when two people getting your parents getting together yes so so what's really cool then is if you if two people get married imagine now there's a finite number because there's five number of his sperm you basically create a world of sand that's going to be way different you know me and my partner is going to be different from you know you and tandas to totally different world of sound but and yet when it's time to you know conceive it's like okay let's just pick one grain of sand and the next sibling isn't like oh the green stand on that same beach or a foot away it's literally the exact same and you just pick a second grain of sand so you could just have even if you had 500 children it's still just like it's such a complete smattering like some of those grains of sand are like like absolute geniuses and some are like really really not at all like really dumb and some are sociopaths some are completely evil like there are there there's someone in that there's some grain of sand that's basically a hitler in there somewhere yeah there's probably a whole beach of hitlers you know what i mean like yeah there's certainly at least like a giant handful of hitlers And they're already so different from each other. I'm like, well, like, let's, I want to see some, I want to have like 15 to see some of the differences. I could not agree more. I want to run like a Monte Carlo somehow. And then see all, I want to see them, like, I want to see them mean. Because really, even if you have five kids, it's still like, if there's a normal distribution of pick whatever trade or just average whatever, you're still, I mean, I guess you would, there would be aggression to the mean. A lot of the Graves of Sand are really similar to each other. That's right. Yeah, that's right. Of course. They're all slightly different. And sometimes I think someone who's 90% similar to someone else can have like this one personality tweak that makes them completely different person. You know, literally one letter in your genome of how many letters in the genome? Like I'm making a number three trillion or something. A billion. Yeah. Okay. So three billion. One letter is dwarfism. Another letter switched is you're eight feet tall. Like one out of those so then if you what? And obviously other traits take more letters but like that one specifically is a genetic issue. It's also amazing to me given how like how little tweet can really how many people are just blessed to be like healthy normal people like without any major issue given like how fragile all of this is. So fragile. Yeah. So it's uh so yeah I'm I'm doing a little bit of this in the book with CRISPR. I'm illustrating how it works. And then like, you know, then you get to the whole world of like, well, if there's that grains of sand, well, how about when you can start picking your embryo or tweaking them? I mean, now you can kind of make a grain of sand. You can kind of pick amongst maybe a whole, not a whole beach, but at least a big handful of sand. You can kind of like... it's gonna get did you guys think about or i don't know if you talk about this publicly but there are things that you can do not to you can't crisper a baby yet uh but you can make 15 embryos if you do ivf and then and then analyze and then choose we i had barely known about i had just started to learn about this technology um when we started having kids and i was like uh but it just felt like it wasn't quite there yet and i'm like i feel like the really useful version of this isn't going to be here in time so we just accepted we're having like the last crop of dumb kids before like 200 iq like yeah we're just gonna have normie kids and that's okay yeah i i i i think they'll be like they'll be something that's like but it'll be like handmade Your kids will be like handmade and people will be like, wow. And then when they're exceptional, it's like, it's more impressive. I know. It's going to be a weird world when this happens. I don't know what all the different implications are going to be. Yeah. I know. It's so quick because everyone agrees like, oh, wait, you could like cure cancer if you gene edit? Like, let's all do that, right? And then you can... cure colorblindness, yeah we should probably do that. And then obesity? And then you get to like, oh, everyone could be athletic? Yeah, and like this child is going to be born deaf to deaf parents, but they love their deaf community and they want their kid in it so they can fix that but they choose not to. Is that okay? That's a whole... What about taking the message where it's not deaf and actually tweaking it to be deaf? Because they say, we love this. We love our world. We have this amazing community. We want our kid to be part of it. And we're so happy about this. We wouldn't want to change anything about ourselves. So let's tweak our kid to be like that. But now you just took away your kid's hearing forever. I mean, that's obviously a weird extreme example, but it gets real weird quickly with what should be okay. Yeah, or even autism. Like, I think a lot of the big change in the world is created by, like, autistic people. Yeah. Who are on the spectrum in some way, because it turns out, and I don't need to list any public examples, but I could, like, seven come to mind. It makes you really good at leading companies, you know? Really good at leading companies, really good at, you know, reasoning from first principles, like, just original reasoning and novel. And like emotionless, right? Like if you need to, like a lot of times the best decision if made by a computer. I like a good example. What was the example of this where it's like, oh, this isn't a great example, but it's like our biases as humans and emotions. It's like if I told you, damn it, I can't, you may know the example here, but if it's like at third grade, someone was, I told you they were their reading level. And then I asked you to predict their GPA. They were like in the top level of reading. And I would ask you to predict their GPA. And almost all humans get this wrong. And like autistic humans get it more right. And computers get it more right. And most humans, the bias is like 3.8, 3.9. But the answer is whatever the mean GPA is. 2.9 three point because there's no correlation at all and just because the fact that I gave you that information you assume there was some correlation and we have all these biases and stories and patterns unintended consequences that are really bad that we just truly right now we're thinking about this one but there's something that we're not even thinking about that's gonna be like this really really bad thing for society that it's gonna hurt hard to know and then also be some incredible things um it's such a giant change And it coincides with like then having AI that maybe like is in our heads when you have brain computer interfaces or you have these like really smart people who are also thinking with AI and it's like hard to believe it could be real. But like, yeah, it's. It kind of reminds me of like social networks and platforms where it's like a lot of good has come along with that. But like we just kind of did it. And now it's like, wait, what has this done to our kids? And it's like. There's a lot of money to be made and narratives out there that it's like kids can and should have this. And now it's like, is this like smoking? And, but I feel like there's just like 17 of those now coming down the train track and no regulation because what kind of regulation can you make? Like you need data first to understand. So one person actually talked about this is on Ted, where it's just like the onus needs to be on the tech companies to prove that it's safe before. you can do a thing but even that i think is a great idea but how the hell do you actually enforce it's like i look back with horror like oh my god like all these kids teens just like smoking so much or like lead poisoning and it's like oh man that sucks to be them and it's just like weird it's like we are currently doing so many things that are just yeah 100 in general this is one of the things i've like taken from living the last 10 years in America, but also just writing about history and stuff is like, there's, we are not like done with any of the bad things, the bad things that have happened or the, the foolish things that have happened or like the shameful periods in history. Like they're all the same species and we're all still here. And like, um, just never get cocky and be like, Oh, those days, the old days, like, I don't know. It's like, Yeah, I think it's like, yeah, it's the bias of like, you know, I can look back at some opinions I had. I was like, oh my gosh, I can't believe I thought that. That's crazy. But then it's like, good thing I've got it all figured out now. And it's like, it's really hard to spot your own blind spots. And the thing is that... Actual like true humility is like quite hard to do. Yeah. Like in a way that like still maintains your like... self-confidence and it's like the correct level of humility is like very hard because you can go too much and now you have no you don't trust yourself in anything and you're just full of insecurity and stuff that so it's like to find that I've illustrated this before like the humility sweet spot like yeah is is not easy it's like we've all got a little Dunning-Kruger inside of us and that's not a bad thing sometimes a little bit of a irrational optimism is useful to an extent that's actually my i i think of my i think that is a superpower of mine i call it like naive optimism where it's just like i'll have an idea and i'm like that's such a good idea and it's so easy like that's i mean realistic about about understanding like how hard it is to get a big youtube audience when you started if you were truly realistic you'd be like no it's like it's just too hard a path i'm not gonna but like you were like yeah i can do it and just like you know and Yeah, 100% and then you just keep changing the goal. So it's like the carrot is always right there to string you along But if the carrot was like 28 miles away, I'm like, oh, so wait, so how did Ted even come along for you in this case? To the background here is that mark is currently at Ted. That's that's you're in Vancouver, right? Yeah, Vancouver Bay right there. That's the building. Yeah I've been there about six times to six Ted's and the first one was an awful experience because I did a talk and the other five were great because I was watching other people do talks. But I imagine the first one was terrible until you did it and then afterwards. Oh my God, the best few days of my life. I also had a Tuesday talk and Tuesday was a great day to go. You had Monday. I was a last speaker on Monday, dog. Monday is the best. I mean, Tuesday and Monday are good because it's early in the week and then you get to enjoy. I couldn't have any fun before the talk. So now you get to go watch sessions and just sit back and let people inform and entertain you and it's not your problem at all. Yeah. So how did this come about, the TED Talk? How did it come about? Have they been trying to get you on for a while? I think they've reached out. Sal Collins taking Oda from Chris Anderson and they are, I can't even remember, but I think they did approach and said, hey, a lot of people Oh, no, no, no, this is what it was. Okay, this is great. I asked Adam Grant, our mutual friend, I said, hey, I want to get good at speaking. Like, this has been a mastery goal of mine because I don't like public speaking. It makes me uncomfortable. I get really nervous. And he's like, you need to meet Briar, who's like a speaking coach who also does TED stuff. So I said, Briar, I'm going to hire you as a personal speaker. She's like, funny, you should reach out. Everyone around here keeps saying your name that we want you to talk. So I was like, oh, okay. Well, i actually have something i don't want to do it right now because i have something to announce i'll tell you in one second and so then she became my speaking coach through ted and so i just like practice the hell out of this thing and like really tried really hard and i now know what an a paper looks like and it's the craziest thing dog like this is the first time i've ever actually enjoyed a talk and it's such a warm audience here and it's such a warm audience it was so cool it's like weirdly like not that stressful being on that actual stage because you're like oh this everyone's here so like nice but you don't know that till you get up there right and then as soon as i said the first thing and they like really laughed that was that funny is just hell yes and i've never like spoken in the high stakes like i mean i've done a bunch of like i've spoken to 10 000 people and 7 000 people but these are like dumb i shouldn't say dumb companies these are very nice corporate events that are nice enough to invite me but the stakes don't feel very high Here the stakes fell high. And so I was like, I don't know how I perform in this situation. Maybe I'll completely forget. But what I was finally able to do, and this seems obvious in hindsight, but like I can speak to a camera. I have a lot of, I have 15 years experience of that, right? What I was never able to do is like take those same mannerisms and the comfortability there and the way you like talk about things and even accentuate a word. I hadn't connected that to in person and I had a much more stiff. presenter type thing. And literally, I practiced on the TED stage twice and I recorded it. This is the night before. I watched it. I was like, ew, that's not right. And then I came back in the bathroom and rehearsed it. And then I found that link in my brain. And that was it. And then it just like when I got on stage, it was like I was doing YouTube video live. It was just some like... Door needed to be opened to let us very like you're the most comfortable person in front of a camera, right? Like you're yeah, it's like it's just like Yeah, it's just like once it gets there and you're like, oh, okay. Wait, I can just Like the neurons connect. Yeah, and it's like oh from this to this it was like And then that was a cheat code because I knew exactly how to now move this way that way talk here, right? And so it's freaking fun. So The big news is for the thing, you know, my big premise was like, I started with a big hook. It's like, premises, what I've learned after 16 billion views is like, I can't teach you if I don't have your attention. But if I can get your attention with something remarkable, now I have something to attach the learning to. And I call it hiding the vegetables. So for a lot, it's kind of like you got to enter through the heart to get to the brain, but trying to go to the brain and go to the heart, same thing, you can't reason someone out of a position they haven't reasoned themselves into. And people don't realize it, but like... That's what I'm doing with my YouTube videos. The reason I create a jello pool is because it's clickbait. You're going to watch it. It's remarkable. You've never seen that. You're going to have a visceral experience. You're going to feel something here. But you remember the six steps of the scientific method. I sneak into there, right? So that was the premise of the talk. And then I said, okay, but here's the big deal. Taking all the tricks I've learned for 15 years and me and a team for the last two and a half years, I think I've told you about this, but we've been secretly creating a full school curriculum, a science curriculum, third to eighth grade. exceeds all the state science standards and it's it's going to take me four more years to finish it and then and 60 million dollars because it's like banger videos it's like resources teachers can make with stuff around their classroom where the kids get a viscerally enact with the science ready to teach classroom slide decks so 60 million dollars to make and then we'll make it free forever for all teachers open source Because it's like I know how to make shit that kids will want to watch and get excited about. And the biggest problem with science, I talked with Joe from Alpha School, he's actually going to use Crunch Labs or Class Crunch Labs in his first science. He's like 90% is the motivation issue. Like that's the problem. Sal Khan says the same thing. Like if they can get the kids to use a computer, it's great. But the problem is most kids just don't care. And like that's what we've solved and no one else has. And so it's like... I've had to earn these views and almost all curriculum is written by just people who went to school on how you write curriculum, right? So it's like it's reversing it. It's like start with the attention piece and the rest of it's easy. Kids get so addicted to video games or to something else, right? It's not like kids don't have attention and kids are like mastering things. They do when it's fun, right? That's right. Again, your videos are deep down super educational. Yeah, but kids are obsessed with them because you're doing it in a flash. It's like, that's also like, I feel like curriculum was invented by people who don't know kids or don't care about how kids work. Like you're doing videos being like, how do, I mean, your videos are also like that you managed to appeal to really the whole spectrum of ages, but like, you know, I can, you can see that like, you're very clearly making sure you really nail it for like, I don't know, teen kids, right? Yeah. and like you're or even down drop picture like eight-year-olds that love your videos yeah yeah that's right yeah and but uh but like you have a mind to you're thinking about how does a kid's mind work you understand what a kid thinks is fun like that should be the bare minimum for anyone making curriculum and the fact that this is like groundbreaking what you're talking about is crazy like i went to school and i was like yes this the teacher is not like acting like someone who kids want to hang out with. The curriculum is super boring. Like, why are we making kids go so out of their comfort zone to like force themselves to do it? It's just so dumb. So anyway, I mean, I'm delighted to hear what you're doing. Yeah, and it was really well received. I think it's unlocked a lot of funding already. People want their dollars to go live, you know? I guess they don't really know. No, they did. I just said I wanted to be first. So it's like as soon as possible. A month or two. So, okay, so the curriculum, is it, does it have videos? Does it have like... Yeah, so it's really, ultimately what it is, is a slide deck the teacher teaches from. And it's like, I teach with the teacher, like the teacher becomes the hero in the sense that like, so she'll open a slide deck, you know, let's say potential energy will be with the units on. That's a two-week unit. But we start with me going down, my brakes have run out on the truck going down the freeway. It's like, oh, what are we going to do, right? And that's the hook, that's the anchor. How do you stop a runaway truck is the anchor for two weeks. And it's no longer sage on a stage where you sit at the front and say, gravitational potential energy is MGH. The kids have to scooby-doo their way to the answer because that's where learning occurs. So the first challenge is like, how do you stop a runaway truck? All right, that's the big question. Now here's a sub question and there's six lessons and each one has its own question you answer. By the time you answer all six of those, now you have an intuition that the things that matter, even if you don't memorize the equation, you know gravity seems to matter, you know mass seems to matter, and you have an intuition that these are the things that give you more energy. You know, same with like kinetic energy, we just did one on that too. It's like, you know mass matters, you know velocity matters, and you know velocity seems to matter more. you don't necessarily know that it's v squared right but you just have this intuition so then when you get to high school and you get one half empty squared there's Principle-based understanding versus just memorizing an equation because again, you really memorize something which is this is how you do it Yeah, if you're memorizing an equation you forget it two days later if you have an actual and by the way It's like then people think because they're being taught so boringly they think I'm not good at this I'm not good at physics, right? Yes, and so then they don't like it then they stay away from it versus when it's actually not that It's nothing that complicated about any of this. If someone teaches it well, it's so intuitive and wonderful. And then when you really get it, suddenly you can't get enough of it. It's like you feel really good about yourself when you're doing physics or whatever it is. This is a huge part of one of the things we're measuring, is we're having people independently measure it, is your self-identity of like, oh, I'm not good at science. And I think that's where we will move the needle the most. Of all the people on the planet, you know, it's better than I do. Well, but actually, I got my first lesson in this because before we put why, and I was blogging before, but I wasn't blogging in a way to try to teach anyone anything or like explain anything, but it was just like funny posts. The thing that taught me, you know, how to teach was I was my side gig originally when I was trying to write music in LA when I was 22 is I was tutoring kids and I tutored like over a hundred kids over five years, like hundreds of hours. It was my, it was my, it was my salary. And also then it turned into a tutoring company. And then I was, that was a big procrastination really in the end of what I was supposed to be doing. But, but I, and then I had to hire tutors and I had to train them. And so, you know, I had to make sure that I had to have an eye for who's a good teacher. And for me so much about it was not like, yes, yes, I want someone who can explain something well. But mostly it's like, is this person going to charm the kid? Is the kid going to be like, oh my God. And I look up to them and I think they're awesome. And now the kid is open to being influenced by this person. Yeah. it and i noticed i noted that i mean it was such so gratifying having a kid come in who was clearly like didn't want to be there and like kind of was like really badly in school and was having problems behavioral problems and almost every single time i could i could turn that kid around because i could get i could i could start getting into first of all just like become their friend like what's yeah you know what's really going on like i'm not just like i'm not gonna i'm not judging you i understand like and then start to just show the kid that learning is fun, that they're good at things and slowly. So, I mean, it's, it's, it's, and that's why like, uh, um, you know, you would have been like an instant hire for me. Just forget your, you know, before you were a YouTuber. Yeah. Like this person knows how to talk to a kid and, um, can make, like, can make learning seem like cool and fun. Yeah. You know? And like something that... Yeah, I could totally get that you would be good at that. I also did that after actually while working at NASA. For $50 an hour, I would get home, drive in a car to someone's house and tutor like high school kids. And I kind of loved it for the same reason. It's just like if you spend one-on-one, like you could always unlock it in their brain. I wasn't as like... Mine were like troubled kids or like your situation. So I never had that experience of like... But like they weren't doing well and then like always they would do better. Yeah. Always. And like the kid would, you know, it's like, you know you did a good job when the kid like comes out of like a learning session energized. When they're like, when they come out and they're kind of like hyped up because it's that feeling of confidence. And then you realize that this kid who's like, fuck this, like fuck my parents, fuck school. Yes. Almost always that they feel insecure about their abilities and they've decided they're bad at this and they've... And it's just like so the point is and I like hearing what you're doing because so much of that first moment of turnaround is Yeah. Wait, I get this. Oh my God. And then like suddenly like the kid's acting like a nerd. They like want to, they want to listen. They want to like raising their hand in class and they're like, um, so yeah. Uh, so, so, so, so yours is like a deck that basically the teacher is like a, a, a character in this thing that you're doing. Yeah. Yeah. So she'll show the anchor video that will kick it off. That has me in it and we're doing cool exploding stuff up. And then, you know, like one of them is about maglev trains and we show, I'm in Japan. I'm like, this train goes, 200 miles an hour and then we show a train in America or an old train. It's like, all right, play 20 seconds of the baglev train, the 20 seconds of the other train, what do you notice? So the teacher pauses it and leads a discussion. And I'm not giving the answer. I haven't even said it's magnets or electromagnets. And so then, and now people are raising their hand, it's getting discussion going, there's debate and the teacher's leading this. And so between that and the hands-on challenges, in that one, for example, you have Dixie cups and magnets, and you're like making a little your own version of a maglev train. And the toy engineers, the product designers at Crunch Labs, who are like super smart, mission-driven, these are like top of the class MIT Princeton. They're coming up, you know, we have a section of them are coming up with these hands-on challenges. The challenge is for 30 kids, you have $4 total to spend. So make something really accessible. And so that's it. And we just, this over feedback has been overwhelming from teachers. We, of the pilot, like 96% said that like we 100% well, this will be our full science curriculum when it's ready. This is crazy, dude. This is gonna be like, this is gonna become like just like a staple, an American and then it can go to other countries. I mean, it's like, it's a big idea. It's like the ripple effects. Like, I mean, it's great because like you kind of like, I think you probably It came from like, what's the highest impact you could possibly make on the world? And like, it's hard to think of something bigger than that, than having millions of American kids like love learning more than they thought they did and understand like the natural world more than they thought they did. And like going to school, they did. I mean, truly, it came from two things. One, my COO's daughter came up, what are you learning in science? And she's like, we watched a Bill Nye video today. And she showed me a worksheet that I've been copied like 4,000 times. I was like, and I love Bill. He's great. But it's like, that wasn't made for today's generation. That was an old style of teaching. And I'm like, I could make more updated videos. And then it snowballed again, naive optimism. And then it snowballed into this note. If you play a bunch of teens, like their parents' music, they're going to be like, uh-huh, lame. And check out. But like their music, they're like, so it's just a little bit the same thing. you know something made for the kids today would think is cool and like interesting and fun and that they're used to yeah that's right and then and then also because i know and i don't know and like i'm saying this is not faint humility there's something about the way we make these videos that it's like it just doesn't like every day when i go out the thing we hear the most and i i probably hear this if i'm in public at all six times a day is this exact statement and my partner and I laugh about it. I love it but it's the exact statement. Oh my gosh, you will not believe this but my son or my daughter is your biggest fan. Like they, she freaks out. You know, it's this exact phrasing and I'm like, I fucking love it. Let's take a picture, you know, and it's great. First of all, I've been with you before. Like, it's like you're like Taylor Swift to like the 12-year-old boy. Like, well, and increasingly girls, I can't go anywhere with you without a 12 year old boy coming over and being like, you are literally my favorite person in the world. And so like, what a, what a better person to be like, Hey, how about we do some learning in school? This is it. It almost becomes immoral. Not to solve, not solve is like a very audacious, I think, not to just really try and put an impact. Take a crack at making it way better. Take a crack at making something that's very, very broken, right? So look, I know it's been an hour. I know you want to get, you have to. Sorry. I know you have a huge TED. We haven't looked at a single drawing. No, no, no. And I also just, I know how busy TED is and I'm sure there's a lot, a big schedule. Do you see the drawing? I love that we just did like a podcast for like 46 people. Well, the main thing I wanted to do was hear about Ted just because I would have probably told you anyway to just hear about Ted. Yeah. So we got to do that publicly, which was, which was Kill to Burge with One Stone. Do you see the drawing that's up here right now? Yeah. I was just checking with chat too. Okay. Yeah. This is fine. Okay. Should I? Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. Answer any questions. Know that... I was going to try and guess what the video is or the picture's about. Okay. Yeah, like what do you notice about this? Okay, you gave me a little clue with Flatland. So it feels like it's a globe. Obviously, gravity is pulling everyone towards the middle. It's like two-dimensional. It's like two-dimensional. I imagine, you know, to go around this, you have to jump over the bush, which I see on the left. There's a guy climbing a ladder to get over the house. Oh, a squirrel. Now you're speaking my language. You know, to play to the crowd. Yeah. I mean, I have a snail and a squirrel. It's not done. It needs more things. It can't have a population of five. So I need to add some more people. The people are a little big. Like, I think ideally everything would be smaller and there'd be like 10 times as many things, you know? I just don't want to do that because that's going to take me forever. Like, I have to, you know, any drawing I could work on for a week, but then I'd be done and... 2035 with this book so i can't do that but um so i'm trying to find a balance here where it looks like a little world and it's not and can you draw for me right now because you just the whole point is you're supposed to be actually working you've been procrastinating for this last hour actually if you look at the agenda oh yeah i didn't know there's an agenda that's probably getting covered right now um the agenda so you're on there now but also let's go The procrastination is all be alternate. So, oh yeah, actually I didn't know that this is gonna this is this is a procrastination session. It's great. Okay, I procrastinate like at least a third of the of the live stream day. So let's just let's just so if you see that the physics here is tough. Nothing in flatland can overlap with anything else. Right like his arm can't go by this guy's arm here can't go like behind his head at all right and like they're holding hands They can't actually be holding hands right they can be like touching on that whatever. Mmm. So These are the rules of flatland. I don't know how anyone would get into the house. That's not like for me to know that's for them to figure out but And also so they are the size of the house. Correct and the reason I'm doing yeah, the scale is a mess And I think I'm just going to accept that this is a silly drawing and that sometimes it's really like having the scale be totally a mess is just like, okay, we're accepted, accepted the situation. But none of the scale looks right. The houses should be way bigger. But the problem is this is going to be on a six by nine book and I want it to only take up half a page. The other thing I could do is just give up on the half a page thing. And then I could just make it a little bigger. and i could uh you know i could i could add more in but i was trying to have it be like the size of a plum on the page like the the world yeah versus the size yeah yeah great a grapefruit which would be like love because you know if you have by the way you don't need it the middle's all gray anyways right yeah that's what i'm saying i don't know it's not a good use of space to have it's mostly i could have done like a flat part of flatland instead of supposed to the whole globe the whole globe seems funnier so way funnier Anyway, the point of this is to illustrate, to show that Flatland is, the people on Flatland are blown away with the concept that their universe might be this three-dimensional hypercircle, which of course we would call a sphere, but they don't know what that is. And the idea that they would leave Flatland in a rocket and just go forever in this direction and end up coming back here to the other side is like this most mind-blowing thing, because they don't know what a sphere is. They can't even envision a sphere. But what if the universe wrapped around like a sphere? Now that's being done so we can talk about, move that up a dimension. We cannot envision how you could leave on a spaceship from Earth, go far enough and come back the other side, which physicists think is a leading hypothesis for that it's a four-dimensional hypersphere. Whoa. That it's actually wrapped around. Really? Yes, that that and we can't all we can do is picture three dimensions So you have to use yeah, you know, it's a it's it's something that we are little 3d brains just can't conceive of so that is this is this also the idea with wormholes then if it's like a four-dimensional hypersphere It's like where the fabric like loops around on itself. I don't know but I think they're related like I think it's that there's more to space-time. It's like a fabric. It's a three-dimensional fabric that can, that they talk about this universe seems flat. And is that, you know, in other words, if you look out on the horizon on the earth, you see both a ship go down over the horizon because the earth is right. But we don't see the horizon. We don't see stars dipping beyond the horizon. So is it flat? Again, 3D flat. Or is it so big, the real universe, that the observable universe just doesn't, we can't even see out to the horizon? So it's essentially flat within the... because this is like a great... Yeah, you're saying we're like universal flat earthers. Cosmically, everyone's like, dude, those guys are flat earth. They're flat universers. Yes, that's right. And so we're trying not to be flat earthers by not assuming that it must be normal. Wow. That's cool. By the way, we have a very special visitor in the chat, I've been informed, Cleo Abrams. Oh, Cleo. Cleo. She just like, she's just chilling in the chat apparently. She's hot fun. Cleo is, Cleo makes me jealous because I'm like, I want to make the, she's making this video. I'm like, damn, that looks really fun. And she gets to go to such cool places. Like she's like going to see, you know, she's like, she's always like in some, she's like in a particle accelerator or like a computer. Damn, it's so, so fun. And then it's self-fulfilling because she does such a good job on the video, then she gets invited to do more places. Yeah. No, no, no. And she's someone who was doing some things at Vox and then like you said, you kind of like flip the switch and now you could apply Markness to a talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, true. She started doing videos and it was just like, boom, she found her medium, like big time. Do you know her? Have you met her before? Oh, yeah. Okay, she said she wanted to make a video. She texted me that for some reason. So I am your intermediary. Yeah, no, no, no. Cleo, I love Cleo. And I think she would like the idea of... Can we do an Easter egg? So in my squirrel videos, there was a character, Fat Gus. It was basically a character I was making fun of a lot. It's like this pudgy squirrel. And then halfway through True Story filming, I noticed that I had nipples and then someone informed me that only pregnant female squirrels have nipples. And then I felt real bad because I was fat shaming a pregnant female squirrel. Yeah. And calling it fat. So is there any way on that squirrel that you just make the belly slightly bigger? Should we add a nipple? And I would love a nipple. But it's got to be a little more rotund in the belly. And then when I read that, I could always point to that page as like a cool Easter egg. Okay, so what are you doing here? This is just another person? Or does this person specifically have a purpose? No, I just need some more people in Flatland. I see. And I'm fascinated that you don't... Oh, this is a person stick figure. Each one is individually hand-drawn. You don't stamp that. No, no, no, no. Because they're all a little different. If they were perfect, like CGP Grey, right? good friend of ours if yeah if he does perfect circles right so he can just repeat because that's his style for stick figures but mine are all hand drawn so if they're the same it looks really weird it looks it looks like it's like oh that guy just copied and pasted that it loses all of its personality now i feel like the nipples are covered up here but let's try to like at least do it's a flat lamp nipple let's do something yeah because otherwise it's gonna look like another eye No, no, no, it's gonna have to be way smaller than that. Have to be something that's gonna be just like a pixel on the print so only people know. I love it so much. You also don't look like a perv like drawn squirrel boobs, you know. Well, that could be problematic. I think it's okay. Okay, so we're gonna do it's a little bit covered up by the arm and there's no way in hell I'm gonna read. But they have six. Okay, so you have space to work with down the sides. Okay, hold on. Let's make this darker. And smaller. This is what a little nugget that this intimate live stream is getting to participate in. I know. It is not what they expected, but it's what they deserve. Beyond. When's the last time you drew a squirrel nipple? It's been a while. Oops. I don't know what that just happened. What the hell? Flatland. Oh my God. College. Oh no. No. Flatland gets really fucked up with. It's it's it's it's a weird place flatline because it's just any angle, you know, you never know what's up or down in flatland Okay, zoom in real tight on the nipple So we're doing we're doing six nipples. Well three. No I think too because the arm would cover one right right right and so you'd see two Yeah Like on the belly or like back here. No belt. Oh, no belly like the arms here on the front side of the others, right? the otter it's exactly like otters it's like squirrel letters that squirrel has nipples now i can make them slightly darker so that we can make sure to see them when the book is printed yeah i'd appreciate that yeah don't worry i got you um so good now i i feel like i've had my mark i love my mark so we fattened the squirrel up so squirrel just got pregnant yeah we just knocked up the squirrel together So it's like half of it's like on all the grains of sand is one. Yeah. Our DNA combined. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is, this is, this is, we've, uh, yeah. Okay. Well, that's fantastic. So yeah. And then it's always just a decision with these things for how perfection is to get, because you can always, you know, um, how long has this drawing taken you so far? i would say been on it for almost two hours that's cool with the goal of um a little outline there um with a goal of being done in 20 minutes because i'm getting close usually i'm like when i'm done then i look at it and then i see a little thing and then i look at it and i see a little thing and i do that for a while like i just did with the tree needed an outline um yeah but uh Yeah, I did not intend for the scale to be so ridiculous where the girl is the height of the house. The house just got to be a little bigger, I think. Yeah, but this is like the charm. The girl's got to be a little smaller. You know, we have issues here. Because it's also just like, how silly are we being at any point? I don't look at this. I don't think it's silly. I think it's just like a... representation like it doesn't feel like it should be if I spent seven times longer is everything should just be the planet should be bigger but I don't have the space in the book and then all the people should be way smaller and there should be like eight times as much as many things going on that's real flatland we're not doing that in this case we're doing an idea of it to also it is also worth thinking about some drawings are this is a critical Part of the book you're gonna see this and you're going to remember it throughout the whole book and we're gonna bring it back and we're gonna talk about It's like a huge sum up of the whole chapter other things are like you're reading Yeah, flat land just as an intro to talk about the 4d universe and then I had this little drawing you can look at on the side and be like ha ha flatland and keep going so I don't want to spend that much time on something that is a Real throwaway for the reader a real quick little huh? How many total drawings in the book? I mean 300 300 and 100 are being done by about 100 done by an illustrator who's doing like maps and some graphs and things like that that are there are not i'm not i'm not even good at and that don't need way but why style at all that's a new experiment um to try to uh way for lifestyle is the best dude i appreciate that and and that and it is what it should be in a drawing like this and then it comes to a map and i'm like why am i the one doing this map no one's benefiting from having this map be like yeah that's clear 100 yeah i mean that is a hundred percent you obviously know this already but your superpower is like so much so often it is is the drawings that i get like the biggest aha moments well that's how i am as a reader if someone and now she's too small if someone um is a reader if um if i see visuals i'm happy or like you know that's what and i'll always rather watch a youtube video to learn about something than like read a paper so yeah if it's even if it's a dry youtube video i just like having the visuals so um what is your go-to i know you're playing music i feel like i should know this what is your go-to genre so i cannot play my normal music right now because i'm scared of youtube not putting the video up um so i'm using epidemic sound to do something in the same general vein as I would listen to which is like kind of like low five beats but I listen to me too yeah yeah Zelda and chill have you been there The on lo-fi is so Zelda and chill is just like Zelda low-fi version like low five beats version of Zelda music Oh, it's so good And then so then I went on a rabbit hole this it's done by this guy meat hell I think so then I went to his thing and he has Zelda and chill to Zelda chill three They're all so good. Then he has Pokemon and I don't even know Pokemon music I don't know if you know anything about Pokemon But the music is so good that his his version of it and then his brother Jokabi I like discovered that he has his brother and then his brother has amazing plays. So suddenly I have like 10 playlists by these two guys and I love those. Mikkel, there it is. Yeah, Mikkel. I'm on Spotify, right? Check them out. They're fantastic work music, amazing work music. And then also someone recently recommended Endel to me. It's like a different thing. It's like you go on your browser and it's like an app you install. But Endel. endel is um is really good like focus beats that sometimes is what i'm in the mood for it's not it's not great music like i think the zelda and chill guys are but it's just good good focus beats um it can't be yeah it can't for me be too pretty definitely no words or it's distracting definitely nowhere i don't know how people do that i uh but i never known someone Yeah. Do you know who Mark Manson is? Mark's a friend of mine. He's a writer. He did the subtle art of not giving a fuck and you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Big time guy. He, when he writes, listens to like death metal, like screaming, like death metal. I'm like, that is so wild to me that someone would create with that. But gets him in the mood, you know? That is wild. Yeah, I actually never met anyone. I mean, I guess this makes sense. A lot of people use lo-fi to study. but i guess maybe in like our industry i never met someone who also uses lo-fi music but it's like what is the psychology there i guess my guess is it just like i can i only have two i can focus on the main task and then i have like a compartment next to it that is like 20 can be filled up with something that will get me distracted right and it like fills that 20 bucket with something so then there's no third bucket it's only like my main bucket and the smaller one totally No, no, I totally agree. And it's like there is room like my focus that I can be at a hundred percent focus on it on it on Writing or drawing more drawing I have more like for example I'm talking on the live stream the whole time and I'm drawing needs like I need like 40 percent of my brain 50. Yeah, yeah, yeah When I'm thinking about the actual How am I gonna do this? Okay? I need more but once I'm executing like I'm doing right now It's kind of I can just my a little bit mindless Yeah. But writing, it's like, I need really, like you said, like 80%. But there is a big chunk that's just not being used. Like the music doesn't detract at all because it's not that part of the brain wasn't being used at all. And it actually, I do find that, because I'm listening to someone else who's really creative and there's something about it that just kind of like, it's like, I don't know, it's like the lighting in the room. It's a good creative space. Yeah. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I mean, just anecdotally or just like empirically. I'm just, I focus way more and I don't get like distractors. A little lo-fi music and throw my phone across the room and then I'm like in the zone. There's also just something about not being available to other people in the room because you have your headphones on. Oh yeah, true. But when I write generally I'm by myself. Yeah. I'm often. My wife works right across from me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At Apple, it was always that thing where it's like, it was open floor space, but the equivalent of closing your office door was putting on big headphones like you have on. That's like, yeah. Because I actually like being in the room with people. I just don't want them to talk to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaking of which, I should probably go. I need to go catch a flight. Yeah. It was delightful. I saw your email and I was like, oh, I haven't talked to you in a minute. Let's just do it with 50 of our closest friends. We just got to catch up while we were walking. It's a bunch of things just happening at the same time. That's lovely. When can I expect to get your... the copy or the the proofreader of the book. So I'm gonna be sending my v3 which is like one more revision of the writing and the drawings basically all done. That's what I'm gonna send to some beta readers and there's a bunch of uh Patreon subscribers of Weepawai who have volunteered to read a chapter of this earlier version and comment where they're confused. Love it. But then I want beta readers to read like a pretty complete nearly fine thing but with one more and so that's probably gonna be in the like midsummer. to late summer cool there and then uh all right looking forward to the summer reading yeah uh well good hang all right pal good stuff uh yeah enjoy it and uh okay talk soon okay see ya all right now i need to uh so this goes away and that goes away and now i think we i can move this where it should go Right, I think we're back. I think everything survived. The tech, our tech situation survived the end of that there. So you never know. Going over here, make this tiny bit smaller. Cool. You see why I like Mark, right? He's just kind of like a fun dude. Our friend Philip, who's the, who does the channel KurtzGassat, best science YouTube channel. He's the founder and lead writer of that. He's also a very good friend of both mine and Mark's and he calls, he said that Mark's like a golden retriever and that's a great description I think of Mark. Now why is this thinner than this? You see? I don't like when things are wrong. Let's just catch up with the chat quickly. It's been a while for us since I've been in that thing. Let's see. Let's close zoom. Anytime I do anything, I'm like, ah, is this gonna, is the whole thing gonna crash? Philip is guest tomorrow. You know, I asked Philip and he said, I'm in like the busiest, most stressful, like stress stretch ever. And so he wants to do a rain check. And he was like, but I really mean it, rain check. And I'm like, I know you mean it. Same with CGP Grey, another good friend, also great YouTube channel. He was like, you're the only person I would say yes to this for, but not this week. And I was like, cool. And then Liv came in earlier today. So Liv and I are gonna, Liv's gonna come on tomorrow and we're gonna do competitive. or collaborative geoguessr. But she's very good at it. And so I'm going to have to, you know, if we compete, it's not going to be a good look for me. You know, she does shit like the sun is over there. So that means we're like about this many degrees latitude north of the equator. You know, it's like, just like, so, so let's just see how we're doing over here. Let's see what's going on. Yeah. I mean, that thing he's doing is a huge deal, right? Like, imagine 60 million kids getting, like, a better, more fun education. It's like one of the highest impact things anyone could possibly do. I'm pretty happy for him. Tim Music. There is a 2007 thing I did on Spotify called Turning Home. It made a... I wrote a bunch of piano songs and then Glenn Ballard, who is a producer, he did the big Alanis Morstead album, got connected with him. He liked it and said, let's produce this. And he and I made a little set of songs. So that's something. Other stuff is not publicly published, but maybe one day. Yeah. Humans will not be on Mars this decade. I've accepted it. I've accepted it. I'm waiting till the end of the decade, but I'll pay up. You know, it's just not going to happen at all. Zero percent. I thought I was told by people who I thought knew that it would be done by like mid-2020s. This was back in like 2015, 16. So I thought it was safe, but it turns out Mars is kind of, you know, it's hard to go to with humans. But I still am as convinced as ever that we will in our lifetimes witness it. I will say those Artemis astronauts, I thought I would just be like, wow, you know, like if I saw the moon landing in the 60s. And I was, but I was also like jealous, you know? I couldn't fully enjoy it because I was like, I want to go. I was like, that sounds, seems so fun. And normally like, If I'm watching like the NBA, I'm not like, oh, I want to play because like I'm not even, there's nowhere near able to do that, right? But what they're doing, I'm like, I know they have a lot of skills, those four astronauts. I know that they are prepped for anything. I know that they had to prep for a hundred times more than they had to do because things go wrong and that they have to go through whatever, all kinds of rigorous screenings and trainings and all that. But I can't help but believe that if you took one of those astronauts out and put me in instead, the mission would have just gone over just fine. So I'm like, I could have been there, I think. Now, why me? It's not, I mean, everyone wants this. So, but I just want to go to space really badly. And especially, it's one thing if they're like landing on Mars and they're taking measurements. I'm like, okay, you know, whatever. There's like a whole skill set that I don't know. But all they did is sit in like, sit in the capsule. and go for the best view ever. Imagine getting to watch the moon get bigger and bigger and bigger until you're like, it's right there. And the earth is smaller. Just seems like the most fun thing ever. So I want to go. I do think we'll get to a time when that particular thing they just did, I think you could do if you wanted to go. First, it'll be like, you have to be, you have to be able to spend like $10 million plus to go, but I think it'll come down. I think it'll become something that people can do. I don't think you will need to have astronaut skills to go into space for very much longer. And how do we even get on this? Why are we talking about this? Oh yeah, that Mars in the next decade. So Mars I would like to go to just because, I mean, what an adventure, but it's like a, it's not, you know, it's not, it's no quick trip. At least three months, maybe more like six or nine. And then you can't come back for at least 26 months, right? Because That's when Earth and Mars are next to each other and then Earth goes around faster and laps Mars and comes back around every 26 months in the orbit. So, you know, if I wouldn't see my kids, I feel like that's something I'm probably not dying to do right now, even though it would be craziest adventure. Maybe like kids are gone, like kids are out of the house. I'm like older. like one last hurrah type thing, go to Mars for a couple years, but just circling around the moon for a week, oh my god, give me that now. So yeah, I am excited that like space is a topic, like I feel like I grew up in a really dark ages of space. Like there was, you know, I was like, when I was young, we all in the classroom all watched, you know, the Challenger was just before I kind of like became conscious. But the next one right after that was it was they obviously took a pretty big delay after that disaster The next one was discovery went up and I remember watching that in my second grade or first grade classroom So I that there was still kind of excitement about space then even much less obviously than in the 60s but Then it really went into a dark age and we shut down the space shuttle program in 2011 and like the 2010s Like early 2010s. It was just nothing to be excited about and then SpaceX came along And now obviously for lots of reasons, it's like a total new golden age starting. So that's amazing. All right. So what are we doing here? I think this house has got to be a little bigger, right? It's smaller. It's just unnecessarily small. Is there a section about aliens? Of course there's a section about aliens. And if anything is it didn't fit at all. It didn't make any sense. Like, you know, I'm going chronologically. Like, where do you talk about aliens? It's not like something happened with that. But I was like, I'm not going to write a book about everything and not talk about the Fermi Paradox. So there's a whole section. The first... What am I doing here? Why can't I highlight everything? The first crack, the Fermi Paradox section of this, of a chapter, it's just part of one chapter, was longer, twice as long as my post on the Fermi Paradox, which was a pretty long post. It was 8,000 words. Probably be like 25 pages in the book. Way too long. So I got yelled at and scolded by... everyone for that length and I cut it in half so now it's about the length of that post and that's I don't know maybe it'll lose a little more but basically I'm gonna I'm gonna try to kind of not cut too much more it's a nice long section and I talked about a bunch of new theories that have come out since I wrote the post while also starting by reiterating what I mentioned in that post this also because this was copied also has a too thin line at the bottom well now these are bigger so 1.7 so yeah Is that right? Does that look right? Yeah, I guess that looks right. Okay. Now, what else do we need in Flatland? You know what? I need to move on. We have so much more to do. I can't spend more time on Flatland. As much fun as I'm having, making this little funny world. I think we need to do a couple more things and move on because there's a lot of shit to do. Now, that house looks small, but that's okay. That's a little house. Okay, so I'm finishing this guy. my book for them i always draw a little waving guy why is this it's just sometimes it's hard to not to just so he's waving is he happy i think he's neutral not like he's like neutral with like one percent of positive now we need eyes and eyes should be a little bigger than the outline And Mao, this should be a little smaller than the outline. Okay. I mean, these two are really just doing nothing. He's also so tall and big. He's the height of the house. I mean, I think we just, I think we're accepting that this is, this is silly. So I'm not concerned. There's a lot more like silly fun things we could do. You know, I could just keep doing this for a while. Could have a tortoise. It's always nice to have a tortoise. I'm gonna draw a tortoise. I'm gonna draw a tortoise. You know a little Easter egg is that Winston is in like every early Wait But Why post somewhere. There's also, and you have to find these now because they're archived, but you can, we have, we've sent the links out to people who asked for it. The story of us, which was the, you know, which is what turned into What's Our Problem. There's a secret mushroom on every post somewhere. And if you click that mushroom, something happens. Let's draw it a little. It's actually all kinds of little Easter eggs on WayPotY. And what you don't know is that WayPotY 3.0, because this is actually the current site is WayPotY 2.0, the first one, if people, only the really early people know about the first one. The people who've discovered WayPotY during the why Gen Y yuppies are unhappy craze, that was my most viral post ever still to this day. That site. Was way boy 1.0 which is coded by me, which is why it was not very good and And see a little yellow tortoise that's too yellow. So that's some green in there and Way boy 2.0 is what the current site is way boy 3.0 is in the works Leash has been working on it with the team at WordPress all year and it's Awesome. It's so much better than the current site. And it's just going to be easier to work with. It's going to be easier, more fun to read. It's like dark mode. There's like easier to find posts. Right now, it's like people go to the popular posts on the side and then, you know, they scroll down a little bit. But like there's so many posts that don't get play on the front page. And so it's doing a lot better there. And that site is going to have all kinds of Easter eggs on it. So hope you check those out now. Let's move this up. Yeah, it's going to be fun. I have so many posts on the to-do list because it's been so long that I don't even... Yeah, it's going to be fun. Now, can't have any background here for Winston. He needs to be over like a flat part. This is... Sometimes I don't want these little spikes here and they're annoying me, but that's okay. I want to draw little legs, but... Maybe that's enough. Uh, no, a tiny little eye. I don't think anyone will see it, but you'll know it's there. Let's see. Point. Here we go. Okay, we've got a tortoise. Had to be a tortoise in the book somewhere. So, now we have one. I think those middle lines are too dark. Oh my god. Oh my god, what just happened? Okay, I guess I'm... right side up now at least let's lighten those no these need to be thinner there we go all right so flatland um okay i'm gonna do one more person and i'm gonna have that person sitting on this mushroom um can you share the story of us links honestly i don't remember where they are um alicia has them um so you took it down because it was like there's a better version of all this now which is the book And it's like weird to have kind of your first draft of the book up, but let me see if Alicia has them. Okay, I asked Alicia. All right, so, but it's gonna be a little, maybe this has to be a little bigger, I don't know. Maybe we'll just do a little like, I used to in Pixelmator just have to draw the head circle 100 times till I got it right instead of being able to at least do this. All right, all right, good enough. Now, I think he just has a little body. um what's he doing is he like thinking that's overlap can't do that i think he's just maybe just doing this i think we're gonna stop after this this is the wrong thing he looks a little down in the dumps it's not really what i wanted from him um i feel like uh eight four three i feel like we've gotten a little off with our weightings here but nine five and then this is now too big two all right So, Flatland, you know? Maybe we have a little bit of a gender imbalance. I feel like there's not enough dating options here for the men and the women are overwhelmed getting asked on dates. So let's just quickly... I just went to Prospera, which is a independent community, like an autonomous... in a special economic zone. Oh, that looks really bad. In a special economic zone in an island off the coast of Honduras. Why does that look so wrong? Here we go. And where they're doing like really cutting edge biotech in a district within the city of Prospera called, basically they have a lot of laxer laws and they can like have their own FDA where they can actually have an FDA that an equivalent of an FDA that's just looking out for safety and not like all these other all this other red tape. Well, we already have someone with a bun. Maybe maybe this one has like a funny bun. And it's really cool. But when I did a panel at the end and one of the other people on the panel, they asked us on the panel, there's like a few hundred people who live there and they're like, what what what can we do to grow? what do you think as outsiders and one of the guys on the panel who i was on the panel with said you need more women because it's too male heavy and you're not gonna have if people can't no one to date then people just don't want to go somewhere if they're if they're single i think that's a good point so we're not going to have that problem here in flatland it's the wrong black if you notice this is black black black and actually i don't use black black black very often i use this very dark dark gray it's a little like i don't know something it looks a little less harsh and and it's a little more cartoony full black seems a little much okay i feel like she's now having a nice time because of her hair is making her have more fun and we kept adding stuff until it's starting to look a little bit more full it's silly as But like now here's an important question. What should the upside be? Hey from Cambridge, UK. You know, I learned in my History of English podcast, which I'm on episode 99 of, I listen to it as to fall asleep every night. And so I get five minutes in and he puts me to sleep and then I go back the next day to wherever I was. And over enough years, you get through 99 hour long episodes. And I learned that Cambridge, basically Oxford was this early university, which was just basically a community of like learners and teachers. It wasn't even like they didn't have a campus yet. And that Cambridge started when a bunch of like disgruntled Oxford people like left to start their own thing because they didn't like someone in the rules or whatever. And that became the origin of Cambridge University. Oh, it's Andrew. It's Andrew. It's Andrew Finn, WipoWise co-founder and my best friend since 1987. Hello, Andrew. Andrew likes to laugh at my work habits and just my work life in general amuses him. Okay, so if you see Andrew, we have Flatland here. Do you like it? This is the kind of drawing that Andrew would like, I think. But now the question is, what should be up and down? By the way, Andrew's favorite drawings I've ever done are the three, like, facial-haired men from the early part of the Meet Your Ancestors, parentheses, all of them post. The, like, Viking guy and the caveman guy. That's the hardest I've ever seen him laugh at. anything to do with wait but why um okay so we could just have it like this um we're kind of centering the the two lovers up there um and that's okay um we could center the guy saying hi um let's just test some things here This is unusual, you know, most drawings have a top and bottom. There's not an option to rotate it like this. If you could center, you could do here. But I think that's too on the nose of like the guy saying hi is at the very top. The squirrel is now quite centered. The snail is now way too centered. The snail has to be random. Like you just notice him as you're looking. I mean, the girl on the mushroom is doing a lot for me. She is... I like her vibe. This is going to be a big moment of indecision here. How about like this? It's a little unimbalanced. There's so many big things on the left. I'm going to end up doing another tree over there on the right, and it's going to be upsetting. Maybe I do... Hey, Keith from Liverpool. You know, my favorite thing to do... in liverpool even though i've never been there is to watch the abbey road live stream which is the actual abbey road crosswalk where they the beatles did their the album cover to abbey road and there's a live stream and you can just literally watch there's like a camera set up and any time of day you can just watch tourists almost get hit by cars taking pictures walking across the crosswalk um i'm feeling like this but it needs you know so then i think we just need to one more tree i might just should i just copy this tree and then tweak it a little bit let's just be lazy okay let's hold that for a second what the hell's going on over here oh is that the oh i just dragged did i lose the nipples no i didn't okay we're not gonna have a squirrel in this one while the nipples are free floating because they're not part of the uh they're not part of the squirrel that i had grouped together um okay so let's move these guys over here. I'll put a tree. I feel like this would balance things out. I don't want something to look just like totally off kilter here. Okay. They're still enjoying themselves. Now this can go over here. We rotate it down here. Okay. Now we, I mean, we don't need to do too much here, but like, you know, I'm gonna make it a different tree. Oh, Abbey Road's in London. Who knew? But Abbey Road Crosswalk is in Liverpool. I don't need to go too crazy here. It's different enough, probably. Oh, we lost our music. For the unacquainted, this is day two of three in a live stream marathon that I'm doing for my own productivity. It's been going really well, but I will say Flatland is eating up a whole lot of time. A whole lot of time. A little too much time, right? It's flat, but it's not like that interesting. I mean, it's just not that important to the book. And now I'm like making this tree subtly different and it's starting to look weird. I think that works. This is weird up here now. I don't like these little holes. This is like because I'm messing with the anchors too much. All right. All right. I'm getting antsy here with Flatland. Okay, now I need to go and make that background. So I'm going to copy, do this, and make it darker. And, oh, no, the outline darker. This is a mess. I'm going to put it behind. Increase its size slightly. I should probably do the same here, unfortunately. No. No, I'm not dealing with this right now. No, not dealing with it. Okay. All right. I feel like it's become a balanced flatland. I'm feeling okay about flatland. To me, it is a good flatland. Now we need to rotate it one more time here. So first, let's just go back to that. Okay, now. Can't highlight the whole thing. Is something locked? Why is not everything highlighted there? Oh, I see. I need to unlock the world. I'm going to go with... Let's do that. I like the centerpiece to be this guy jumping because it gets you the idea right away. Oh, I get it. He can't... I don't know why there's space here. It can't look like there's any overlap. Same thing here. Things got a little off kilter at some point. I really don't know why but things are not quite aligned But I don't want to get into perfectionist mode because with so many little things I could just do this for I could oh man everything's off kilter. It's actually pissing me off a lot Why what happened? Why would everything be slightly? Misaligned see everything's just like a little off I suppose I could fix this later See, Winston's off. Why? Why is this highlighted? There. Okay. Anything else? This one too. That's good. I think we can stop after I do this tree. All right, Flatland. Now, I think we should name it right here, right? We should just... I don't know if this will... I don't know if we actually want to do this or not, but... Should we like naming it like that? Flatland? Okay. Flatland! There's flatland. Oh yeah, dogs. No, I know. You know, I could do an easter egg and put Moochie in from the story of us for the, again, the really hardcore people who remember Moochie from the story of us. But this is Moochie. I know that Andrew's also a big fan of Moochie from the story of us. Here's Moochie. Now Moochie is not an invector and I am absolutely positively not drawing it. But we can at least see what it would look like. I'm not redrawing Moochie. This is the insane scratch pad I had for what's our problem. Story of Us then, what's our problem with just things I used over and over and over again. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what the heck? See how it's so like low res? That's the problem with not doing vector. Vector never looks like this. But smaller Moochie looks okay. I mean, we could put Moochie in. as a little it would be a little you know that would be a little easter egg for those who remember um i don't want to look like it's their dog we'll see if my if the publisher is even down for something this low res but i think if so we can leave moochie in i do like little i like little you know what's our problem or story of us call outs in this book there's a couple it's like three okay so now moochie's in there too are we happy Moochie looks a little out of place, but that's okay. Moochie's doing fine. Just funny that the snail is bigger than the squirrel or the dog. Snail really should be smaller, but I'm going to leave the snail. It's a giant snail. They have big snails in Flatland. We invented Flatland. We can do what we want. So I'm going to now, so I can't do anything else. That's it. I'm saving this. Man, that took a long time. Man oh man oh man cuz I had a lot of draw a lot you know Diagrams go quicker for me than drawing. Okay, so I'm gonna do save as flatland one right cuz there's a flatland two I'm not sure I can bear to do flatland two right now because it's more drawing Let's just think about what it would look like and maybe that'll get us to just do the whole thing but so flatland one is showing you this circle land that everyone lives on it's flat flatland two is the scientists the flatland scientists demonstrating to other people in flatland i'm just going to put i think one scientist with like four people so i have to draw five stick figures and then now i already have something with a whiteboard type thing so i could reuse it but maybe that's a little weird because it's not maybe i should do something different um now where the hell was that You know what? The trace as a vector thing, I tried it. Let's try it, but I'm telling you right now, this shit doesn't work out well for me. So, I've tried this before. Object. I think it's, um, it's image trace, right? I think it would be an object, right? Hold on, I have it. I have it here. Um, so, it's in panels. Window. Okay, right. Image trace. Now, I don't know. I feel like I need this to be a just a line, right? This is now a screenshot. So I guess I could go and like delete everything that's not the line. But this does not see. Okay. I mean, it doesn't look much like Moochie anymore. And it does and it doesn't. It just looks terrible. Threshold. But yes, Moochie is technically a vector now. But you see what I'm saying? It looks bad. For reference, here's the real Moochie. So I've done this. I've never successfully like had gotten anything that looks good. Now again, I'm sure someone who's good at this could do that. I could redraw the tongue, but it's like a pixelated mess. Now I probably could do something like, can you adjust smoothing? Yeah. Yeah, probably. But like how, you know? Path, smooth. I feel like that's not what we're doing. Yeah, that's not what we're doing here. Image trace. See, there's probably something here. Noise. I'm sure someone who's really good at illustrator could like whip this up in a second, but that's just that person isn't me. Nothing's even happening. You know what? I think it's, I think we should wait to find out if I even need to do this because it might just be so small that it's kind of no big deal to just have Moochie in there as is, right? Will anyone know? No one's going to see it. Here's a, it's going to be like way out here. It's going to be a plump flatland. If anything, Moochie's too small. I can't even see it, Moochie. Moochie should probably be a tad bigger. Moochie is based on my childhood dog, the Bichon Frise. Okay, I'm going to leave this as is. Now, advanced paths and corners, yeah. You just screen grabbed Moochie and traced it for you. How to send you an AI file. I mean, send something to Tim at waitbutwire.com and I will check it out. I'll be grateful if you teach me how to do this or if you just do it for me in this case. See, I can't look at it. I can't look at old drawings or I'll always just start doing stuff. That goes for like not just drawings I just did, but like any drawing I've ever done. If you open up to me in like an editor like this and I'm sitting here, I'll just start to see all things I don't like and fix it. Every drawing I've ever done. And that goes for every post too. If I just, if I reread an old post right now in the editor, I would just be changing all kinds of things. Okay, Flatland 2. So where did I already have some, oh, okay. I did it with plate tectonics in chapter one when I was like, I think these scientists again and again, these geologists were like, I think these fit together, these continents. And the other scientists were like, nah, you see? So this is kind of what I was picturing for flatland scientists. Now, on one hand, it's like what you can't just redo. You can't just copy your thing. This is a different setting. These are scientists in the 3D Earth in the 1900s. Flatland is a different universe. It's a flat universe. On the other hand, there's something fun about doing the exact same thing, but in the 2D universe. So let's do that. We'll see if that works and that could save us some time. Obviously we can't have like the paper going in the back, right? Everything's gonna have to be different, but maybe, what if, same concept, but instead. So we've got these three. So everyone's standing now exactly on the same plane here. Right, right, all, they're all directly next to the paper. You have to lose all, this is actually kind of hard. You have to lose this thing because no one can hold anything in Flatland. To lose that, can't even. have it wiggly can we? Maybe I'll just replace this whole thing. Can't have wood. I mean this is hard. Maybe I can... How would Flatland even get rid of that? That's a third dimensional thing. Maybe it's just like resting on these things. So now maybe we uh... Whoa. Why does that look so stupid? What is going on? Why is this so stupid? What if I went like this? Oh my god. It's like horrifying. I'm clearly in the wrong tool for the wrong thing I'm trying to do here. This is not working at all. Maybe that's the problem. Okay, maybe that's the problem. Okay, I thought I had to do corn or not. Because I think it still would be like a not perfect sheet of paper. It's just not like, you know, okay. Now unclear how this is held up. I think we need like, if we finish Flatland we're gonna procrastinate because this was a beast. We're gonna do GeoGuessr after this. You know, it's like standing, I guess it's easy in Flatland because everything's on one plane so you don't need the backing, right? It just needs to be lifted up so they can see it. Okay, now, I think I might need to redraw these guys but like, where is the writing for this? Okay, so this is This is chapter 7. Here's chapter 7. Okay. So, everyone is enjoying their flat life when some of the flat scientists point out a new hypothesis that blows everyone's flat minds. While flatland is a circular planet, flat universe may actually curve back upon itself, forming a 3D object they call a hypercircle. A hypercircle, the scientists explain, is like a circle, but in three dimensions. Oh, we have the singing lady. Get out of here. I don't even know what she's saying, but I can't have it. Hyper circle they explain the circle in three dimensions. Everyone's confused over the 3d circle even look like so I want to do a I don't think he's saying anything. I think I don't think he's saying anything. I think I need to just draw a mess. What is this mess I did? I might just have to redraw some of these because the point here is actually not to be different. The point is to show that like this is what it looks like in flatland when that thing you saw before happened there. I want them to be a little more like stick figurey than normal. Like old school stick figure. Kind of just like. I'm pleased though. I like when it is the right decision to reuse something as opposed to a lazy bad decision. Because usually I end up not doing it in that case because I think oh my god the book is forever just suck it up and do it. And don't like repeat in the book lazily. So I usually don't but in this case I think that's the point. Most people, this is six chapters later, most people won't even remember, but some people will. I always like to do things for like the really attentive person who then flips back and looks and they're like, ah, I see what you did there, you know? A lot of things are for that one out of 20 people. This book has a lot of that because there's so much. So there's a lot of callbacks and little like quiet references to something we've already talked about. There's a big there's a major way but why callbacks the human Colossus if you remember that from the Neuralink post is it plays a huge role in this book for obvious reasons it's the same it's the same thing that I talked about there is this human Colossus is creating this AI Colossus human Colossus is like the the emergent property of all humans doing stuff God you see what a mess how hard it is for me to like do things and just see what I went behind the scenes of these drawings okay I want them to be a little more stick figurey though with like very straight limbs all right um they really have to be all standing on the same line here so now this guy's not doing this at all I'm just gonna see if I can fudge it here okay this is gonna work now I need to get the pen out Now the joke here is that like none of them can actually turn to look at this thing. They're like trying their hardest to look at this thing. But their mouths are still over here. Okay. No smiles. Closer. Now we need to draw this thing and this is what's going to be hard. So we've got where we could just take Flatland and we have a bunch of other planets. So we have a big circle. There's no map. These are all planets in flat universe. What this guy is explaining that's blowing all their minds is that if you had a rocket that goes this way it would loop around and come back this way. Now how do we make this look 3D? I might need help with this later but I want this one to look 3D. I mean I know how I know ways to try to do it which is like I do this and then I go like something like that. I don't think I'm gonna need graphic design help for this one thing. But basically we need to draw a rocket now. Because they have flat rockets in Flatland. I don't know how they work. It's actually a marvel of physics Flatland. So we do a little rocket here. Why is this so like big? I need this to be much much much smaller. Point three. Okay. Now I'm gonna do it in white. Let's try to do it better than this. Let's get a rectangle. Sorry about the loud sound. Should be over soon. Now, that is a neighbor. That is a neighbor's leaf blower. And I can't ask the neighbor to stop leaf blowing because I am live streaming drawings, you know? That wouldn't be very... That would be kind of obnoxious, I think. Now, let's do this. Let's make this. curve this part right let's have it be this um they have a flat spacex um is white the problem maybe white is weird um i think they have flat fire i don't want this giant what stop it now i have to also see if this is going to be way too small let's just take a look at how this is going to look on the actual page um i think i just need to make this a little wider fire there. It's so annoying. Loses my... Actually, I think we can just be, we can just keep doing shapes. Shapes is nice when you can get away with it. So you can do this and then you can do another one. Make it yellow. And now we kind of have a little, right? That kind of works. Now we do one. Okay. Maybe we just need one of them. I think two is weird. This rocket is not much of a rocket. Is the color the issue? Is that right? Green? Green? Silver? Yeah, that's better. This is a really, really, like, lo-fi rocket. It's not much of a rocket, but you know what? That's okay. So now I'm going to make all of this farther away. Let's rock it together. Now I'm going to do a dotted line. Now I'm... Okay, okay, okay. We might be able to do this. Let's just see. I'm going to do an ellipse. Now we're going to dot it, thin it, and dot it. Okay, now we're going to cut it right here, here, this, and to cut it here, and here. We're going to delete this, or here. Maybe this can move back a little bit. Damn it, I shouldn't have cut it there so soon. I'll leave it for now. Okay, let's cut it again here. And this is what he's explaining. Put it there. Oops. Okay. You see where I'm going with this? So we're gonna go like this. And then wider so it doesn't touch. Same here. Let me do an arrow. Why is it wiggly? Why is that arrow wiggly? Why would that arrow ever be wiggly? I didn't make a wiggly line. No, no, no. That is so weird that that line was wiggly. From a straight line. What are we doing? Oh, do I have some effect? Oh, roughen, that's why. this round tips you know what i'm happy we did this because it was not hard i love when something's randomly easy that i thought was going to be a nightmare well it's partially because i used an old drawing um i don't love just need to know ruffin why are you including ruffin i don't want you to okay so 1.013 because i made it bigger that's why okay one There we go now Okay, so look now this can't be in front of that. It's gonna mess everything up Just tiny bit. Look at that. Okay. Let's take a look So he's explaining. Okay, you know what? I think it kind of works These are the planets Because the text does a lot of work here The craziest part is what the scientists say next if if flat universe is curved into a you know, a 3D hypercircle, which we know is a sphere, it means that if you left Flatland in the spaceship and just kept going in a straight line, you'd end up arriving back at Flatland. And they're all mind blown. I think it accomplishes it, but they're all flat. That's why they're all to look like to the side and, you know, and he can't, no one can like turn their head, you know? And of course it wouldn't make sense. You couldn't actually see. That if it was flatland you couldn't have drawn it in the first place But these are the things we don't worry about because it's an it's an it's a metaphor Now this I don't think we can make an aside. So this is gonna be a full width thing I'm not doing outfits. I'm not doing a science. I'm just not let's not overcomplicate here But that's uh, I think we did it. So you've got now is a two-part thing Where you see here's flatland They all live here and they think everything's normal and that the circle is all they can picture. And then they're like, but he's like, but check this out. And they're like, what? And I think that between the arrow and the shading I did, I think it kind of looks like someone in 2D trying to draw a hypersphere. I'm done. Huge. See, that was an example of one took way longer, but the next one was quicker. So the whole thing combined was like still long. You know, we've been at this for four and a half, five and a half hours, and that was a long time for this, but I think we got where we needed to be. Oh, some people have said some things. Window gradient, choose radial. Yeah, much better probably, right? A red rocket or a blue rocket? I think red over black might be hard to see, but I agree it's a lot of gray right now. You can make the planets a different color, but flatland's gray. What if? this were a red rocket. Oh geez. That's not terrible. It looks a little like a dynamite stick, but, um, or a blue. Blue has to be like bright blue or like, you know, I could do a red rocket. I mean, I think the rocket should just have some more shit on it. Frankly, I think it should just have a, uh, let's just add some more shit onto this rocket. Actually, I think it's like, it's like this, like that, this, more like a rocket, right? Because you can't do yellow because you can't see yellow over white. I need something you can see over white and black for the arrow, the dotted arrow. And I guess I could use the same thing and it's just like, yeah, we're showing. Let's try that. Maybe it needs like, this needs a black outline going on real weird there. This just needs to be behind it. No. If it needs a white outline, even thinner, that's probably the way to go, right? Let's just make it over here. Also white outline. Four. Why would it only do one? Why would it do that? Why would it not do the whole shape? Yeah. That's it. That's it. Let's make the fire a little bigger. White outline. Yeah, duh. Okay. And now this gradient was the other suggestion. Okay, let's try it. Where is this thing? I don't want to lose it. Okay. Ingredient. Radius radial highlighting the right thing. No, I'm not. Oh, it's on that stroke. That's why that kind of Mm-hmm. Yeah, the point now it just doesn't it doesn't look as much like a circle. Maybe it's just Maybe maybe a white is too white This is something where I know someone who knows what they're doing could do this in one second, which is better that I see the vibe. I see it. I see what we're talking about here. Maybe it should be the other way where you got the white in the middle. I don't know what that looked like. Like that. I mean that. Okay. I'm going to put this over here for further consideration and advice from someone later who's better at this than I am. But I like your suggestion and I think we should mess around with that until it looks right. For now I'll leave it here. Okay. Cool. Let's resave this. All right. Hey, good job, everyone. Good job, everyone. Back in a bit, make sure you guys hit that like button. Yeah, I don't do that. I feel like I'm supposed to say that kind of thing. Hit the subscribe button, hit the like button. I don't really do that, but yeah, do those things. Make the algorithm like my odd livestream videos. If, as I mentioned earlier today, if we decide to just do this for every post next year, which would be once a week, I'm doing illustrations for the post of the week, talking about the topic of that post, having some guests on, you know, making it more of like a regular thing. Then we would do the things you're supposed to do, you know? We would do clips and put them on Instagram and on X and I would talk about it more and I would send more emails and I would... post to the live streams at the bottom of posts, right? You know, actually work on building it. I think I want to wait till I get technical difficulties and stuff like that every time. I want to get actually good at this and then we can kind of make it an actual like more tighter, more entertaining little like shut the live stream, at which point then we'll go for like a try to increase the audience size and really make it a thing. Right now, it's a sandbox. It's an experimentation. And I'm learning a lot. And I appreciate you guys as kind of a beta audience for this. And I... But I think doing these has made me realize there's a lot more potential to do something really good with drawing live streams. As opposed to kind of like, oh, I have a blog. And then every week I do a podcast episode, talk about the blog. With a guest, I mean, it's like yes, but like why not try to make it a little weird and different? And I think doing drawings inside of the episodes is kind of a good, interesting thing. So it's something we're thinking about. Yes, I know, I know. Yeah, I agree. I think this is fun. And it's a good way to hang with readers. And especially when I'm not in your lives very much because I'm not writing posts. So it's a good way to hang out now. I think we've earned a little, not too long procrastination because we did not get, we've only gotten two drawings done. So I'm going to do a short procrastination. I'm going to have a drink. It's Olipop time. Yes, Wake But Why Meetup in August 2016. Yes, that was super fun. We're going to do another. I don't know what it'll be like, but once this book is done, everything's been on hold. Which is probably, if we knew how long these books were going to take, we wouldn't have put everything on hold. But we kept thinking it was going to be quicker. So everything's been on hold. Lots of ideas have built up. Lots of fun to be had in the fall. And next year. All right. So. Let's do. Let's do Worldle. Worldle was really weird yesterday. And I don't understand what went wrong with it. But it wasn't what it was supposed to be. Usually it has like more going on. Okay. What's this country? That's Iran. That's easy. Play next round. Can you guess these seven neighbors are on? This is what I was looking for yesterday. It was super weird. It wasn't here. You create songs on livestream. Super cool. Okay, top left is clearly Pakistan, right? Yeah, and Afghanistan. What the hell is that? Man, I know Turkey, obviously. Let's do Turkey first. Unknown country. Am I tripping? Oh my god. I have to spell it Turk-aye. That is really stupid. Okay, Iraq is obviously the second to last. Now we get hard here. I think I see Tajikistan. I think I see... Wait. I think I see Tajikistan on the bottom left there. That'll be impressive, won't it be? Wrong. Not impressive, as it turns out. Okay, what borders Iran? So, you've got... Oh man, this is harder than it should be right now. Let's just think about this. You have Iran on the right, you have Pakistan and Afghanistan. What's above Iran? Is it Russia? I don't think so. Man, I look at the map all the time and I just like, geography's hard. I thought the stands were kind of there. Is it like Turkmenistan? Could Turkmenistan border Iran? Is that possible? Yes, it is possible. Okay, so not Tajikistan, huh? Kyrgyzstan? I went to Kyrgyzstan, but that's north of Tajikistan, so I don't think that can be right. Oh, Syria? I don't think that's Syria. Now, Syria is like west, too far west. And then you got like... I really should know this. Could it be like, I don't know, Azerbaijan? Wow, pretty good. And if it's Azerbaijan, could it be Armenia? I don't think that's Armenia. I don't think that's Armenia. I think Armenia is West. So where the hell is this? Could it be Kyrgyzstan? I don't think so, but damn. Yeah, Armenia. Okay, let's try Armenia. Hey, okay, let's look at the map. That was really bad stuff. Let's look here and see what the hell is going on. Why was that so hard for me? What was I getting wrong there? Yeah. Okay. I was thinking of Iran as like farther east of those guys. That's why I see Tajikistan's over here. Right? And I was like picturing it kind of like where Afghanistan is. That's why I thought these are too far west. Okay. Live and learn. Wow. It's a big country. It borders to border Pakistan and Turkey. which themselves border like Europe and China or Afghanistan touches China. So the fact that Iran touches countries that themselves touch like Europe and China is kind of crazy. Kind of like right in the middle of things. It's been very important in history. You know, we all know we talk a lot about Iran today, but like when you study Mesopotamia, ancient, ancient world like I did in Babylonian times, Persian Empire. I mean Iran was always obviously a Persian Empire, but before that the Medes, the Elamites, then later you had the Parthian Empire centered there, the Seleucid. It's really been quite eventful. Iraq is the most, I mean, the Mesopotamia area is just the most eventful. In fact, let's show you something. I wanted to show how eventful Mesopotamia was. This is chapter three. So I was like, how can I show how many different empires have been in one place? And not chapter three. We're in chapter five here. No, it's chapter four. Check it out. Look at this shit. This is if you went and planted yourself between the Tigris and Euphrates River in modern day Iraq, back in a time machine and just hung out there, you'd see so much happen in that one region. That region was under the control of this many things over the last five, six thousand years. This is an example of a drawing I thought was going to take me 30 minutes. I was like, oh, so I'm just going to draw a thing and label them. It's going to be a bunch of things. I have a list here. How long could it take? Hours. Hours upon hours to get the color scheme, to figure out the color scheme, to figure out exactly how wide each picture. This is exactly the scale. Everything is exactly these little things that look like just borders. Nothing is a border here. That is the Safavids. This is the little brief time in between the British mandate, in between the creation of Iraq and the end of the Ottoman Empire. You even look, this is not unintentional. This is two years when it was like nothing during the war, during World War I. That little white there. No one will see that in the book, but again, I need to make it for myself. I need to make it exact. The Rashidun Caliphate. So this was actually the first time Islam. came to Iran was here. This was right after Muhammad died like right here on this border and then they conquered Iran and then the Umayyad Caliphate and the really long Abbasid Caliphate and then the Mongols took over. Over here you have Alexander was in charge for this amount of time and then one of his generals took over for the Seleucid dynasty. This was obviously the Persian this is probably the most important period in Iranian history this blue because this was Cyrus's Achmed the Akhemenid Empire that conquered by far the biggest empire in history at the time. But then before that it was, you know, being captured by the Babylonians, the Assyrians, the Kassites, more Babylonians. I kept saying Iran. I meant Iraq for these. This is all Iraq. But the Parthian dynasty is originally in Iran. So does the Persian Empire. So this was like Iranians conquering it. And this was Mesopotamians being in control. These were the earliest. This is the invention of writing happened in Iraq, the Eruq period. It's the first civilization there. So you see the first empire in history worldwide was the Akkadian Empire here. All the biblical stuff that happened here. So Iraq is just the latest chapter in what is actually such a long story. Ottomans had a good run. They were just basically a little city-state region of Turkey that broke up after the... Mongols lost, finally lost control. It kind of broke into a bunch of smaller fractions, factions, and one of them, the Ottomans, conquered the whole region of Turkey and then eventually just went out and conquered so much more and then held it for a long time. So anyway, anyway, anyway, so what we were doing, we were procrastinating. Let's get back to it. Let's just do, let's, why not, let's do Wordle too. Wordle.com? Is that where you'd go for Wordle? No. No, you would not go to Wordle.com. It's on New York Times. Hoax.com. What is going on? Wordle. Oh, probably went there again. Hoax.com. Sorry. What? So you go to Wordle.com, which you know a lot of people do because they think that's where Wordle is. Look at this really, really not, well, not like thoroughly coded website. This is... This is someone who is posting conspiracy theories. Should we go into one? The mysterious case of Kellogg's Fruit Loops. Where are we? Hoax.com is for sale, I can tell. The mysterious case of Kellogg's Fruit Loops. How are we here suddenly? Well, what is this little snake thing? Kellogg's Fruit Loops is a popular breakfast cereal. It's been a staple in many households for decades. Have you ever wondered how this colorful treat came to be? No, I have not. 1963 Kellogg's introduced Fruit Loops as a response to the growing demand for sweet and fruity cereals. The initial launch was met with skepticism, but it didn't take long for the cereal getting popular. Where's the conspiracy theory here? As the popularity of Fruit Loops grew, so did the concerns about its ingredients. Well, obviously. Wow, those do look delicious. So synthetic, but so, so addictive. Full junk food that parents were giving their kids for years. Many parents began questioning whether the cereal is truly fruit-based. as claimed by Kellogg's. What a hilarious claim. In reality, it contains a mixture of sugar, corn syrup, and artificial flavors. Is this a conspiracy? I don't really know if it's a conspiracy. It's had a profound impact on society. Okay. That's it. Freud loops. What is going on? This AI image. What is going on? This is one of the worst articles I've ever read. I can't believe what we stumbled upon here by trying to go to wordle.com. This seems to be trying to defend Trump a lot, so I see some angle here. Good morning. I'm Walter Cronkite. What is going on? You know what? I'm sick of hoax.com. Missing.children.biden.hoax.com. We are deep in the bowels of someone's basement right now. This is someone in their basement has created this. And they're trying to sell hoax.com. Okay, let's go to actual Wordle. Geez, I'm not the first person who has ended up there. Wordle.com takes you there. Very clever. That person bought Wordle.com when they first heard about it, I think, probably directed it to hoax.com. Some backstory there. I have a New York Times account, but we're not doing that right now. There is my go-to. So now... We have nothing, really, right? The E tells us almost nothing. Sometimes I have a hint that it makes me want to test certain things, but I'm going to do my go-to second guess when I have nothing, which is to test the two other major consonants, vowels, O and I. U is less common, so don't worry about U. And if there's no O and I, we then think there probably is a U or two Es. And I like Login. It's a very random guess, but it tests the L, G, N, very good letters, and an O and an I. You can also do doing, which is replacing the L with a D. That's not bad either, but let's just try this. Okay, that was helpful. Okay, so we have no A, O, and I. So either we've got, you can't really have three consonants at the beginning, or no consonant in between the G and N. So it's not like, sometimes it could be like, chest only has one E. There's got to be another vowel, so it's either another E or a U. and our y but i mean it's not going to be a y right i can't see a y here so we either have something something something you gen right or something e gen re gen something like that okay or d gen but that sounds like a slang word or we've gotten e here probably like either e something g but probably something e g e n or e g u n begun un Gen? I think begun is something U-G-E-N? No, let's try begun. Hey, okay. A three is always the goal. Two is like you gotta get lucky and it's a rare thing. A three is a win with Wirtle. Three you won, Wirtle. Four, you passed, but you shouldn't vary. Nothing to write home about. It's a nondescript whatever day. And then a five is embarrassing, you screwed up. And then obviously below that is like a travesty. I got one, I got one once. Actually I have two ones. Slate was my go-to word for a while and one day it was slate. And stare has been my go-to word for a while and one day it was stare. So those are very exciting moments in my life. Should we do connections? I don't like connections. I used to do it all the time and then I was like, I don't like this, but let's do it together. Create groups of four. I missed it. Did we get a playlist or at least description of these chill working tunes? So this, okay, so what I listen to and I highly, if you like this. The much better version of this is what I listen to on Spotify, which is stuff by Mikkel, M-I-K-E-L, and his brother Jokabi, J-O-K-A-B-I. Zelda and chill, Pokemon and chill, even though I don't care about Pokemon or its music, it's so good. So I do a lot of that. Game, like Mario, basically there's people who make lo-fi beats from video game music, and I just think it's amazing work music. I can't use that on the stream because YouTube will, I don't have the license to that music. So I can't put music that's not paid for or licensed on YouTube or YouTube algorithm will flag it like, you know, and the video will go down. So instead, we got a subscription to Epidemic Sound, which is a site where all this music is already licensed and you can just use it. It's yours to use in, you can use it for something you're making or you can use it as a stream music. Epidemic Sound, I went and tried to mimic my work music the best I could by searching for Lo-Fi and this is a playlist called Laid-Back Lo-Fi. And then we were also doing one that was called Lo-Fi Classics earlier. Just in general is also just, um, let me actually see if there's a really good playlist also that before I discover the Zelda and Shilt stuff I listen to constantly. Um, what's it called? It's called, um... So yeah, Chiltendo, Deluxe, these are all like Mikel Jakabi stuff. Zelda and Poki is my own playlist I made by just combining all those. But anyway, is it games? Is it called games? No. Deep Focus, maybe? Might be called Deep Focus. Alpha Chill is another. Yeah, anyway. Endless well of really good non-lyrics work music on Spotify. Okay. Groups of four. Well, hassle, facile, tassel. That could be a castle. So that's obviously, they could just be, you know, sometimes they like to lead us on. But obviously we should keep that in mind. Tassel, diploma, cap, gown. I'm going to just assume that's got to be. That would be really, really dickish if that was not. Yeah. So yellow is the easy one. Now they're going to get harder. Then it goes green, blue, purple. I think a purple is like the really hard one. You don't need to get the other three you don't need it. You just can you know so yeah that the rhyming thing was just a red herring. Trial. Horse. Castle is medieval. Crown. Castle. Horse. Trial? Okay. So something could be a grind. Something can be a chore. Something can be trite. Something can be a hassle. Or trial too though. Trite is not really right right at trial. It's like these are like a really difficult thing Let's try that Hey, okay, so that's the second is easiest one trite shallow facile flip and miter must be the thing that goes along with the medieval things I don't really know what a miter is Yeah Shapes of chess pieces. Oh, okay. The hell is a miter crown castle Horse. Miter? A miter? Oh, the bishop. I see. Let's see what a miter... That's bishop's weird hat. It's really not. I'm going to say miter, bishop. I see. But why does the bishop in the chessboard have the little groove, you know? Is that just to make it easier to distinguish from the pawn? Probably. Why does... This is the kind of shit I get in rabbit holes about. Bishop have groove. Chest, bishop, have groove. The groove on the chest represents a mitre, the liturgical headdress worn by bishops in the Roman Catholic Church symbolizing its European redesign from its original earlier form. The slit also serves a practical purpose of distinguishing a piece from a pot. So there we go. Kind of had it right. Originally a piece was an elephant. Because it was like Arabic. The slot on the top is believed to be a stylized representation of an elephant's tux. Also it was like a, that's like a, you know. give a shout out to what it used to be. When it reached Europe, the elephant was reinterpreted as a religious figure, a bishop. Odd thing to reinterpret. Elephant would have been cooler. Although elephant, bishops like slice through the board, right? Elephant's like big and plodding. Elephants should move like one piece. But, and the design changed to represent a cut in a bishop ceremonial lighter hat. Cultural differences, the cut was inverted differently as chests spread. In France, the gap was seen as the jester's cap, okay? they just kind of decided that on their own functional design right okay okay so we got our answer okay let's do one more thing not geo guess it we'll do that later because that once i start with geoguessr i uh you know that's at least 15 minutes let's go visit korea oh shallow trite vessel oh you got that one before i did i should listen to you only connect huh that's funny um But yeah, I was doing connections every, doing it with you guys, like doing it as part of a live stream is much more fun. But just doing connections every day, and unlike Wordle, which takes me under two minutes every day, I was spending like six minutes on connections. I was like, this is stupid. I'm wasting time now, so I stopped doing it. Let alone spelling bee, which can take like a half hour or a lot of, awful. Should we go to Cutter? See what's happening here? I went there once on a layover, but I... what i like to do is if i'm on a layover somewhere stay a day i did that in kuwait turned the layover into a 24 hours in kuwait walked around met a lot of people cut cutter my wife and i were on the way back from somewhere and we were like let's we have a little layover in doha let's just stay a day so we did walked around it was very weird and interesting we didn't see one qatari just all indian and like um just just just all everyone working in the shops no one is qatar i think it's there are tiny portion of the population that's like the big royal family of the country basically and then i did that in ghana when i actually okay so i only had a i had like eight hours in ghana on the way back from somewhere kenya maybe and i was like it i could just sit in the airport and get work done or i could go out and find a cab driver and be like hey would you take me around i'll pay you like for the day and i found this great dude who took me all over showed me everything and i asked him a million questions um ghana is like an english-speaking country so we could get communicate and it was like i feel like i've been to ghana now which i kind of have gotta take that if you have a layover take it as a little chance to go somewhere new oh we did the australian outback yesterday and it was grim worse than this but this is pretty bad Think the idea with a place like Qatar or Saudi Arabia is when you get off the beaten path it gets real empty Nothing to see here. Let's go somewhere else I don't want to go into Doha if I can go somewhere that's like where what's up? What's going on with all these dots must be a sightseeing place Nope, it's these fucking dudes. What are they? What are they doing? What are y'all what's happening? Why are you so excited? What's this flag and why are they also is this like some something to see? I've never seen people so excited to be in the middle of nowhere with a flag They're so proud of themselves. It must be like a thing. Can you bike all the way to the flag or something? Okay, what's going on on the beach? Oh man, oh this looks glorious. Look at these. I could hang here. I could hang there for sure. Beach looks okay. A resort of some kind. Definitely some very fancy hotels there. What's going on here? It's Sir Banias Island. I don't even know what country this is part of. Wow, look at this guy. Should we go take a walk? Where are we here? What country is this in? Surban... yes, Ireland. It's the UAE. It's a UAE... wait, I want to go back there for a second. What's the population? It doesn't seem to be much of a population at all because I'm not even saying it. No permanent indigenous human population. Wow. It serves as a major wildlife conservation hub, home to over 17,000 free-roaming animals, including orcs, giraffes, and cheetahs in the UAE. You ever picture seeing giraffes and cheetahs in the middle of like the Arabian Peninsula? I didn't. Well, let's go here. Should we all go here? I could stay here. Look at this white sand beach. Get like a guy to take me out to see the animals. This looks glorious, actually, now that I understand. There's a lot of places in this world, you know? I feel like I know a lot about the world. I'd never heard of this island. Had no idea it existed. Had no idea there were giraffes in the UAE. It seems like we're like in a resort of some kind. Okay, let's uh let's go somewhere totally different. Let's go to uh Korea. Now some of you probably know I've been to North Korea. I wrote about it in 2013. It was right when so Wait But Why got started. First post was about Facebook. It was kind of a let's try to get attention post and it did get some attention but you know nothing crazy. Nine more posts, kind of nothing happened. And then I wrote the 10th post, Why Generation Y Yuppies Are Unhappy. And it exploded and was like the most viewed thing on the internet for the month of September 2013. The email list went from 300 subscribers when I wrote that post to 30,000 one week later. So that's the beginning of real WAPOWISE. That's when I was like, oh, this is... I'm not stopping this anytime soon. I thought like, you know, I'll do this as an experiment. And then I was like, oh shit. Okay. 30,000 subscribers. Like, let's fucking go. Meanwhile, the next post, which was already planned. We had no idea that post was going to blow up. I already had a ticket. The day it went up, I was flying to Beijing to meet someone to take me into North Korea. So it was just starting to blow up. It was like going really viral. And I went to North Korea, had no internet for five days. So I missed the whole thing. And I come out and I had a million texts from people being like, my God, your post is everywhere. Plus I was anonymous at the time. So a lot of my people I knew, really good friends knew I was doing this. A lot of people I knew were sending me the post. They didn't know I wrote it. They were like, oh, you love this. And I was like, what is going on? And my wife was like, bro, you don't know how viral this thing went. And then I looked at the email list and I was like, is that 30,000? It was just, it was mind blowing. Very crazy, but I was in North Korea. So then I wrote the North Korea post right after that. I was like, good, I have a banger post to go up. You don't want to follow up all that new attention with some shitty posts. So I was like, good, I have a pretty good one right now. And meanwhile, one of my favorite posts that I've written so far in the first 10, which got barely any traffic, was called putting time in perspective. It was like a cascading timelines thing. I just love that kind of thing. And it was so gratifying because that post, first of all, every post I'd written on Maple Y now had a ton of traffic. People were like, you know, all these new people who had discovered the blog were like, and it was, I was anonymous. So people were very curious. And every post had all this traffic. I was like, damn, my little like blog is like millions of people on it. Millions of people on it. and then that post is the only one is the one that stood out of those that one got almost as much traffic as the gen y post there were millions of people on that timeline post and it was like so gratifying because i thought i was like damn i thought that was a really good post but it was a dud but it wasn't a dud it just hadn't clicked that's a good thing to remember sometimes you make something and you're proud of it and it doesn't seem to catch on it doesn't mean it's not really good it just you got to have the right time the right moment Sometimes I think, you know, someone writes their best book, these famous authors wrote their best book that no one read and then another book got popular and then everyone went back and read the first book. Okay, so anyway, I've never been to South Korea, despite how much I would like to go. Let's just drop ourselves somewhere random here. Okay. Man, if I got this in GeoGuessr, I would never know this was Korea. You know? When I think of Korea, I just think of Seoul, basically. I think of just like really crazy cities. But like there's this too, you know, there's just like empty places with mountains. Let's go to a city here, Daegu, never heard of it. All right. Damn, I want to go here. I really want to go to South Korea. It's high on the list. These people are enjoying, these Korean people are enjoying their Korean day in Daegu. Look how relaxed they are. This is maybe a guy with his parents and they're walking around on the dock. It's a little cloudy. They're disappointed. They were hoping it was going to be a sunny day. but that's okay they're still they said let's go out anyway and they're they're having a good time they're talking about old times you know they're chatting about life he's he's fulfilling his tail end duties here he's spending time with his parents um so okay we're gonna go to one more place in korea and then i'm gonna get to back to work because you know we could do this forever um let's go down here i never heard of the city either gwangju oh What is this? Cemetery? A religious place? Farmy? Where are we? A bicycle? This, if I were a GeoGuessr, I'd be like, oh, I'm in Asia. I don't know why Westerners don't do cool roofs like that. Asians really have the roof thing down. East Asians. They're just really cool. Like Japan? Japan temples? Like, you can't beat that. Okay, so here we are. We're on a road. Another cool roof. We're really in the middle of somewhere random. I mean, you know, people complain about big tech companies and yes, big corporations, ew, you know, but like Google, man, they've mapped out, their little cars have gone around the whole world. Like the Google car has been here. That's wild. And we just get it for free. And everyone's like, eh, Google sucks, eh, Apple. And I'm like, these companies have done magic for all of us. This is Asian. These roofs are really Asian. This makes me want to go here really badly. It's also making me, oh, look at this person. It's making me hungry. Can you imagine how good this person's dinner is? Some kimchi related things, some dumpling. Oh, wow. They're working hard. This person had no idea in this moment that some American blogger would be watching this particular scene on live stream. What a strange world we live in. They didn't know, they just heard a car going by. They had no idea it was a Google car. And they're doing something. They came out of here or they're going in there with this stuff. This is like their, is this where they keep their vegetables or something? A storehouse? You can just spy on people. Oranges, wow. No, it's not oranges. It's like pomelos or something. So that's how I feel about things. Yeah, this is like they're growing food here. Okay, well. I guess I said this was the end, so I don't think I'm going to keep doing this, even though it is interesting to keep just going. It can just travel around. I could just do this for an hour and go all the way down this road and end up in a different city sitting at my desk. It's making pit stops along the way. Okay, so that's that. Okay, I'm going to be back in a minute. I feel like you haven't. There's more to look at here. Back, 55. I'm gonna do at least two more drawings today, maybe three. Here we are. We're back. We're back. So, you see? So we have this, and now it's like this. I'm not sure anyone will actually connect these, but you'll know, because you can't hold something, you can't make it more similar than I think this is. At least six people will realize, you know? Other than the people like you guys who are already here. I'm just gonna make this a little bigger because we might as well use the space we've got. This a little bit bigger. Use the space we've got here. He needs to get out of his way a little bit. You know, if you're not gonna make it in the side, then it's gonna, this is wasted space in the book. So I just, I just want too much like empty white space. Like use it, you know? If you're gonna take up that vertical space, at least use it. I probably could lower this a little bit too. which is just like I just saved, that's two lines of text, you know, that I just, maybe just are economical throughout. Oh, all right, what should we do now? I have such a big list still. All right, I think you go easy, we can go medium, we can go hard. I think I'll start tomorrow with a really hard one. Let's go medium. Let's do a medium and let's follow that with an easy and then we can get some more drawings finished today. Maybe we even do two easies and then at least we will have gotten five done today. Okay. Okay, this is a drawing that I call, um, I'm on this now, um, Paradigm Shifts. I guess I should have done this. All right. How are y'all doing over there? I like when the, um, I feel like it's almost time for the, uh, the like really far away East Asia, New Zealand crowd to start joining us. All right, now we're going all the way to chapter eight, which is a chapter about the future. So chapter eight's a beast, it's the longest chapter in the book. This is at the beginning of the chapter, and I'm talking about how hard it is to predict the future. And I'm making the point that, you know, if there's a big paradigm shift that comes, like if you're pre-electricity and it's really really hard to predict the future post-electricity so someone in 1850 before really electricity became a thing um is gonna have a really hard time predicting 1900. They don't think they have that hard time but they're gonna be just off because everything was you know changed by electricity um in the late 1800s And it's just really hard to see on the other side of a big paradigm shift, a really major one. And I'm making that point in this drawing. So I can then say that us trying to predict, you know, 2040 might be like someone in the 1700s trying to predict today as far as giant paradigm shifts that might change. It might be two or three in the next 20, 30 years. You know, things that used to happen once in a millennium. of a shift um so and i'm making the point to seeing past one paradigm shift is hard seeing past multiple is really really really hard um you know a 1750 person pre-industrial revolution might have been able to imagine the industrial world probably not but at least like it could maybe if they're really good predict something like that was gonna start to happen but they're not going to be able to predict your picture stuff past the second shift which is electricity the electrical revolution so there so someone in 1750 is definitely not going to predict the light bulb someone in 1850 maybe again if they're really on the forefront of things they might see electricity coming they might be able to predict the light bulb they're not going to be able to predict the computer um or a 1920 person who maybe can predict computers will start to tabulate data and stuff they're not really going to predict ai And so then, of course, someone from 1750 is definitely not going to predict AI, right? It's just now we're talking about three or four of these shifts in between them and this technology. They had no capacity to understand AI. Like AI, they don't even know about electricity. So computers isn't even a thing they can imagine. Like, can't even imagine electricity, really. They, again, they don't even have factories. Everything's very manual and done by hand. So like... artificial intelligence just me it's not even even the best sci-fi author that couldn't have come up with it and again i use that then to say so this is why this chapter is going to age badly is basically my big disclaimer about how like this is a snapshot of what people in the mid to late 2020 2020s think and that's what i've got i got a snapshot of what the best and brightest on the cutting edge people think But there's just no way any of us can predict two or three paradigm shifts down the road, which I think could happen in a fairly rapid succession. AI could then produce artificial super intelligence, which could produce blank. We don't think we can't imagine it. So this drawing is not getting into that stuff. This drawing is just showing the point that I'm making here. So I have the idea to make a staircase where someone could kind of maybe, if they're really good, see over the up to the next stair, but not two stairs up. So let's start with a staircase here. I'm going to show a stick person 1750, 1850, and 1920. And each step is going to be the first, second, and third industrial revolution. The third being the digital age. And then I think there's a fourth, which is AI. So I don't know if we're going to include AI yet in this particular drawing, but... So let's make a staircase. Okay, so let's make a line. Is it a line? Or is it a full... I don't think we need a full staircase. Rounded edge, rounded tips here, you see. This is flat. And I think I want flat, you end up with this kind of thing, or you can make it perfectly, but perfect. But then it's like a, um, do it right now. I don't know why I say that. Then it's like a perfect thing. I think we're going to go more curvy here. So we round the tips there and there. I've done a few staircases. I did, I did, uh, I did this post here. We've got our, uh, our guy at the end here this one that and then there's uh there's uh where is it where'd it go what the hell um where is it even i can't find my own book here it is chapter seven this i was talking about bad going on in society in chapter seven i did that staircase so i'm feeling like we're doing one of these um do i want to do a gradient like that i don't think so I think it's that each one is a shift to a new thing. So it might be more like, this one's also a gradient? No. It'll be its own thing. So, how high? I think, again, we don't want to take out too much vertical space. This one can be shorter. Industrial Revolution. Electrical Revolution. Digital Age. AI. That's going to be pretty vertical. Needs to be kind of vertical because the point is the stick figures can't see over the edge. So We'll start here now And I was snapping enabled. No, I don't know. I don't know how to do that fancy How to be so fancy So I want a light bulb here No, I'm gonna train here and a light bulb here. I want a computer here Yeah, I need to draw a computer a train like an old school locomotive and a light bulb. We'll figure out colors and stuff later, thickness and now looking up, looking up, and then we go light bulb, looking up, and I need to say the year. Okay, so let's do the hard part first here. How the hell am I going to draw a locomotive? You know, I think we do like a bunch of squares. in circles and see if we can get to something that looks like a locomotive. I guess I might as well make this wider. Might as well use the horizontal space as I've been saying. Okay, so let's move these guys over here. Oh, it's the singing lady. Back to piss me off. Enable snapping by clicking the magnet icon that's pretty much in the right corner of your window. A magnet icon. Oh. Snap to grid, snap to pixel, snap to point. Maybe I'm doing something fancier that really needs it because I think I'm already done with this part and I don't really know what just happened or how to work with that. But it's good to know it's there. I'm thinking about something like this guy. Just open this. So I think maybe I should just draw this thing. I don't know. Not my forte. All right. See how it's starting to look a little like a little one. I don't like this. I'm not enjoying this. Okay, why would I click this one not highlighted until I click it 100 times? There we go. Okay, it's becoming more locomotive-y. Now some wheels are gonna help our cause here. Guys, it's spokes unfortunately. I think you have a headlight, some spokes, like this guy. I called this a medium drawing, but like this is just one thing within this drawing. It's kind of hard, so maybe it's not medium. This looks stupid. This is way too thick. I need some lines there. It's getting locomotive-y. Now I need to do spokes. Hey, okay, spokes. Now, copy these. I'm gonna have spokes here too. There. Increase in size. And here too. And here too. Which will decrease in size. So now, We should fill in some stuff. Let's see what happens when we make this fill in white. Like that. And this, we fill in... Why can't I select this? It's just so crazy. Okay. I mean, you know, heavily inspired, but like, seems like a... We need like a bar, right? And these guys have like a pint in it. No, no, no. I just want to select this thing. Oh, where's this guy? Okay, these two. Let's love the other wheel. So, this guy behind. You see my struggles? Okay, let's see one, two, and come. There we go. Alright, does this look a... Yeah, it's a locomotive. It's a locomotive. It's a little silly cartoon locomotive, but it's a locomotive. Now we need some smoke. The vein of my existence is smoke. How about if I do... Gray circles. No white bushes is hard. Don't love it. Adore it. Real locomotive steam is just super. I mean it gets the point across but it's so bad. Okay so that's one way I could do the smoke. Now let's just move this for a second and try something totally different. It's just like you know. It's like also bad in a different way. It's bad differently. Smaller to big yeah. Needs more just keep going. I mean. That looks like it's spewing something. It's not like puffs. That's like old toot toot puff puff, you know? Like it's... If I just... Yeah. Okay. This is something. It kind of works. Last one's a little like... They all need to be touching so it's not like circular and it's more of like a... Yeah. Okay. Okay. Let's do that for now. It's a little... Okay. Yeah. You can kind of hear the little chugga chugga thing. Uh, okay. Is the blue silly? Should it all be gray? I feel like we're in a little bit like fun land here when the Industrial Revolution wasn't very fun. It was very serious. No one was really joking around about this stuff. Oh, that might be better. Right? A little less like we're in like, I don't know, whatever that thing was, that Ringo Starr little kid show. We could do some different shades of... Thomas the Tank Engine, exactly. Not really any rhyme or reason what I'm doing here, but I'm just... Now it's really grim. But it is look more, I think that looks more like an actual train. The thing in the front can be lit yellow because it's like a headlight, right? The Astro Revolution wasn't like a... No one was having like a... No one was like partying. We're like pretty sad. It'd be gray... lighter or something. I don't know what even we're doing here. Okay. All right, it's kind of adorable. Definitely looks like what I want it to look like. People can just clear. The only question is, what would this look like here? Probably terrible, but let's just see if I want to do this. It's worse. Just like the slightest. Now you lose the idea that it's like all smoke and it looks like it's bubbles. I think it's better without seeing that. I think the amorphous blob is actually the point because it's smoke. It's not. it's not bubbles we made bubbles look like smoke by not having them by looking like it's a contagious blob um maybe this could do one where it goes like yeah all right we got our train that really came together all right so now i think i gotta move this over because the whole point is supposed to be that he can't really see it the guy down below um he's like standing here all right so we'll do the guys after now Now we just need something that's easier. We're just going to light bulb. Light bulb and then I'm thinking iPhone. Yeah, locomotive light bulb iPhone, I think. Computer seems kind of hard to draw. Now light bulb, I mean we did an exact drawing here so I could get away with not doing a hand drawing of any of these which is kind of fun. Let's do it. Light bulb. Because light bulb is also kind of something you can do with shapes. How did I get here? Go back where you belong. Things just pop in when they feel like it. So, we do a circle. I always forget this keyboard shortcut. The thing that allows you to move anchor points independently. Anchor. You need to just remember this thing. Shift C. Okay. It's hard to remember the things I don't use very often. Now this tool confuses me so we're gonna hope shift C looks symmetrical. Is that symmetrical? It's not is it? Which side is more light bulb? The right left side is better. Okay Perfect, but it's pretty good now. I think the left side is better. Okay now Do I want to do it? Maybe I want to draw this Because like I could do it this way, but then like let's just try to Not draw it. Now I need a bunch of them little little things here little ovals maybe colors need like a rusty gold too orange how do you make how do you make something rustier darker yeah like a little no that's good enough um now this should be a little problems got big problems because i don't want it i want it to be this it's not exactly what i want it to look like See because I want to be able to put an outline around these because like they look they shouldn't be like one blob You've got your little nub at the bottom these guys need some some shape to them Outline to them. So let's do that here. That's very thin Darken this to go wait back back the back fucked up Riley hold on back and back does not look how i want it to look i mean it does and it doesn't you know yeah it kind of does look how i want it to look it's kind of a light bulb now the top needs something remember it's going to be small maybe the whole thing has to get bigger now again here's an example where i do want to increase the size i can just do that this way all right so now we're going to make this bigger it's not like exactly what i was picturing but it kind of works top is a mess what's going on here i think this one almost needs to be no okay that's something that's a mess okay it looks stupid here from far away it'll look like a light bulb but now although i think these should be longer actually this whole thing should be extended a little bit yeah now we're looking like a light bulb permanent it's wider than the others okay now what do we do here what did early light bulbs look like i want to do a modern light bulb You're stuck in flatland. Yeah. Yeah, it is stuck in flatland. Base of the bulb needs to be the same curve as the thread. That is the issue, isn't it? That is the issue, isn't it? Song Sprints. Thank you for coming back, Song Sprints. Good to see you. Okay. I know how to do that. I go like this, and I add an anchor point, and then I drag the anchor point down like that. Well, you know a way I could do it is I could, well. That helped. Could go down even more. I see your point. I see your point. Yeah. Now we're talking. Okay. This probably should not have a gap here. Again, no one's going to see this, but let's just do something like that. Now, what do we do here? So what does an old light bulb look like? 1800s light bulb. Light bulb. Okay, they were really shitty. I don't want to do that. I don't want to have to go over and do this. I just work so hard although I it's the bottom is the same Nostalgic Edison something if I want to be awesome. I really would I mean this says Edison bulb and looks like mine So which one is it? These are selling bulbs. I don't want to Edison's light bulb. Oh, that is shitty I don't want to do something so shitty But his are like oh, I'm definitely not doing that See, you know another author here would just license a pic off like stock photo comm or whatever Shutterstock and they would just license that and just put it in but I'm trying to make everything kind of hand drawn and crafted in this book So I'm doing very little of that Yesterday's ISS in Aurora Is an exception but honestly I should probably just draw those I'm trying to be consistent but that's the decision for later for all reading V3 and we decided sticking out like a sore thumb, but I'll I'll do it then so I could do one of these guys But then I worry people will think I'm trying to draw a light bulb and I just don't know how to do it. Like this is retro light bulb here. So now maybe this should just be, how do I do clear? Like a really light gray? Wait, okay. Kind of works. I should do like a sheen. I think I know how to do a sheen. I do like a little, make it much smaller. Make that thinner. I mean that actually looks sheeny right there. I was gonna add blur, but maybe that's... no. Let's add some blur and see what happens. It doesn't look right. No. Maybe it just needs to be a bigger sheen. Nope. That's definitely wrong. Maybe a smaller sheen. I thought I knew how to do a sheen. Maybe actually blurring is the problem. It kind of looked fine when it wasn't blurred. Go to a huge sheen. That's clearly wrong. No. Maybe this, but thinner. No blur. That's the point across kind of um How did these look sheen like you make it even thinner? Let's try that for sheen now. I need some shit inside I think because the old ones you really could see it What do they look like in there? I'm not doing some really hectic shit like that I'm gonna do that. Let's just get first get these lines in there. There's some apparatus going on just like have a darker gold. Now I need some apparatus business down here. If I were drawing this would actually be easier because I could just do a little wiggle, squiggle thing down here. But let's try to just do an oval and see what happens. Let's do a rectangle. I think this would be more metallic. This is doing, because I want this to be behind here, but I can't because this has a fill. So I can go like this. I can go like this. I can unfill. That here we go now I need some some bullshit in the middle here, don't I? This is middle guy All right, well, let's do the fucking middle guy. I guess I really thought I was just gonna do like I guess I could do a swirly Maybe I'll draw this one part. That is shitty Kind of shit can't do in Photoshop now. I keep saying that but it's It was years of me working with that program and not being able to do stuff like this. Um, nice. Okay, now what color should that be? Bright yellow, right? Something more going on. I think that should be orange. On top, that's yellow. Make that. I want more like hectic energy, but I don't know how to do that. You can see M-Y-K. I just don't know how to do glow, really bright glow. Maybe this needs to be a lighter background. What if there are no background? No, that doesn't. That looks worse. I mean, should be reversed, this color. This be yellow. Maybe a third layer. The problem is they're more blurred. The early ones were like really transparent. This might be enough. Then I'll obviously do like light is coming out. But I guess then maybe actually this should not be gray. Maybe this should be yellow. You know? Like almost so yellowish white. And then this yellow can't be seen now, so it's gonna change color. No. No. Stop it. What if it were? I hate you. Let's see what happens. We're really losing the color now. Maybe this has to be even thinner. Just try shit until something looks kind of right. And then I feel like it's getting the point across, right? That's a light bulb. Maybe this could be a little bit more yellow. Maybe it's white. Maybe this is white. Maybe that's better. You're not going to be able to see that far away at all. I mean, maybe it's okay. Maybe you don't even need this internal stuff. I don't know. Maybe this stuff could be on top. Oh, it is on top. I know you can add glow, but God, I don't know how to do that. Let me see. Effect. Stylize. Outer glow. See, I don't know how, I have no fucking idea. This isn't even doing nothing. Okay, well, maybe this should be red, like red hot, you know? And then it'll stand out more. I think that's better. Should it be all red? It's a little red. Let's just do that. At least you can see it. Okay, now I need some bright orange red. This should be easy. I just need... I need a line. Here actually, you can get away with just bare yellow. Full-ass yellow. Now, a little shorter maybe? Alright. I think we have a light bulb for now. I don't know about that red, but it's pretty red now, isn't it? It's pretty red. Let's make it a little less red. Let's make this, this color. It's still pretty red, but, you know, it's red hot. Okay. All right. We have a light bulb and we've got a train. Now we need an iPhone. I think an iPhone or a computer because it's like they really, people who in this age really couldn't imagine an iPhone. But Nikola Tesla kind of could. That's my point is the best, he basically predicted the iPhone in 2026. 1926. Like an actual century ago. He was like, people are going to have a little device that they can just call anyone. No wires, you can call anyone in the world from your little device and you can like do anything you want on it. You didn't preach the internet with it, but like, um, I want this a little smaller now. So it's hard for that guy to see it. Wait, did that fucking anything up? Yes, it did. I want to go like this. Um, I want to go over here. And I want to go like that. And I want to go like this. Just a little smaller. You can see that from far away. That red's kind of killing me, but... If you don't do red, you won't see anything. So, okay, fuck it. Let's try it one notch over. So this goes down one and this goes down one. That's better. All right. iPhone. I mean, yeah, we're going to have some problems in a second, but let's just do this first. Okay, so obviously we got a rounded rectangle. Let's just get an exact iPhone dimensions here. Let's just get an iPhone pick. We lock it. We can get our exact iPhone. Really you won't let me make it. Okay. Let's get a dynamic island pretty well. So that's gonna be black and we can get rid of our iPhone gray and our outer edge we can go with orange because that's what my iPhone looks like. Well, 0.1. That's an iPhone. Looks like an iPhone. It's a little dark, the screen. I mean, I could have it turned on with more apps, but that sounds icky and hard. I mean, I could put apps on the screen. I'll be sad, but I could. I could make it look much more vibrant than this off iPhone. Fine, this shouldn't be that hard. I'm going to make this now a much nicer color. I could also just do that and just be done. Probably the orange is kind of weird, and I could just go like this and make that black. I mean, kind of be done. I think it's better to put... It's more instantly recognizable. Maybe I'll try the... Black background. All right, showing me going. Home screen. No, pastels down here. Okay, that's the background. Now, let's make an app. Let's put an app in there. Apps are two aside. By the way, it's insane to me that Apple won't let me make the apps smaller. If you get the big iPhone, there's the same number of apps on the homepage. They just spread them out and make them bigger like for an old lady. Why can't I do what I want? Right, it's actually pretty round the apps. Looking at my phone right now, it's pretty pretty round. Yeah. Okay, now we need to have these apps pop more. Well, first let's just put them all in. Okay, so I want to here's I can just use the tools of my software program here. Okay, so we go boom, boom, boom, these. Let's just go pretty far close to the edge Need to be bigger just get another pick up this is pretty good this can be even and evenly spaced now I can go down the gaps are a little tiny bit too baby care Oh, maybe these are closer together at the bottom. They are sneaky Apple space them now if I want to be really fancy I would put a chest I'm not getting liquid glass okay it's actually lighter I mean it's the same exact color it just has a border so maybe I'll do a stupid amount of detail okay now I need to make some colors here so let's make this and this and this and that one and that one dark blue whoa okay I must make this one This one this one this one that one Red what color are apps? There's some black ones some orange ones some like brighter orange Like a bright orange black I'm not gonna put icons in obviously Green let's do some green. Oh, that's so that color. Oh, how many apps that are that color red? Got a little purple. Yahoo Sports. Okay. I mean, it's an iPhone, right? Maybe we need some light blue, maybe a little less black and a little less, a little neon, but... Okay, so we have our iPhone. And we have our dynamic iPhone. Oh, these should go higher. I mean, if I want to be stupidly detailed, should I stress people out and put a badge? It's going to, like, give people anxiety. No, if I want to be stupidly detailed and something that no one will care about, I can do a... time i don't know what apple uses for their let's do have a helvetica new um should we do it like some kind of i'll do 953 because that's when i was born one point font 953 and then i mean this is dumb i can do the littlest i can use a gradient fill here to do we got black and we've got white really light gray And then I will say our battery is this full. I think I just moved this all the way there. This one all the way there. You see? Here. That's too much. Okay. So we've got a battery. I could do a little Wi-Fi thing. I don't want to, but I could. Will anyone see this? This is how it's going to be on the page. I mean, if you look really closely, you might see. You might. You might. So, so small. here again. I have to switch this all day. I didn't think in the back of that computer. Now I need to... Now here's where I think I should use... I should use Illustrator's tools to my advantage here. That worked. Now I want to get rid of this thing. Is this going to be problematic? Mm-hmm. It's going to be problematic. Okay, I'm going to do the same thing on the other side. This is somehow at the same angle. See, I get the same angle going the other way. And I got a little triangle thing. Are you crazy? Oh my god. Oh, this is so stupid. No, it's not. I should do it. I should do a square. This is really classic me to be doing something like this right now. This is like one of the most inane things I've done in a long time. Okay. Now let's make these. Oh no. I can't do it, huh? Make it square tipped. This isn't the right shape here. You know what? That's gonna have to do, isn't it? Now it's a little big. It's truly dumb. It'd be the same height as the battery. Okay. You know? Alright. There we go. It's over. I guess I... I've got issues now because if I want to say AI on the other side, I at least have some room here. I do not want to scale. Let's try that We'll see now when I lock this in place for now Let's group this whole monstrous amount of segments Now here's my idea. Well, let's do the little people first, okay This is the kind of thing I'm talking about when I say live stream is a productivity hack. I definitely would have stopped after the flatland things today. I would have been like, I can't do anymore. I'm like, okay, we're going to have another thing done. Maybe even another. But only easy ones after this. I can't do a hard one today after this. Okay. We'll do one or maybe even two really easy ones before I sign off. So now, I mean, you know what I could do? I could grab this guy, just because it's easy. You've already done it. And this could just be my horse for the group him over here. Oh, yes. And oh, my God. See, this happens if you don't scale strokes and effects. Go back here. Do want to scale strokes and effects now again. If I didn't, that's the kind of thing I might just not have ever learned about. And it would have been like this continual nightmare for me. And I'm just. Happy that I discovered that I remember whether that was I think Alicia taught me that like on the first day All right. I like that because now the scene See that was already done. Imagine I had to draw that from scratch right now I don't have it in me at this time of day to do a hard thing like that That's part of why I could bear with this one because it was just shapes and Stick figures I can do which is not not a huge deal. All right now A little bit a little guy here chill chill chill chill He's looking up does he have a face or not even a face? Yeah, I'll give him a face I think I mean I could just put the exact same guy. This is like not Why don't I try something? Put the same person here and then we'll give him we'll change some stuff Give him an old-timey hat. What do they wear? Oh No, don't bring this back. We're not doing that again No, we just did that yesterday. I hated it then. You know what? Let's just go steal it. Let's go steal it. Stupid hat. Okay, enjoy your stupid hat. I don't really think they feel like that looks like a 1700s guy with that hat. It's not what I was picturing, but that's what they were. That's what they were. All right. Now I can make this gray because it's not over gray hair anymore. 1800s. A cape? I don't know. That sounds hard. That sounds hard. Okay, let's do 1800s men's hat. Yeah, that's sort of okay. I'm going to do a top hat. Link in action here. A little high. And then now we've got like, so that guy's looking like mid-1800s and then like 19. Maybe I'll do a lady here. Oh man, no one's going to know what that is. If I could do it, it would be cool, but no one's going to know what that is. We'll do a lady on the last one with no hat. Maybe this one is, I think it's also kind of black. I'm really not good at that. Okay. Now, now, you see how, see what we're doing here? You can almost see the over one paradigm shift, but you really, there's no way this guy's going to see the light bulb. Now, I think we do, maybe we now, I think I gotta do. I will say it's, it's fun to, when I've been thinking, like this drawing's been planned for years. It's been in the post since I, you know, since I first wrote the first draft. It was, this idea was in there, but to like see it come to life is very fun. Finally, it's like this thing I've been like planning and it's like, oh, here it is. You have to stand close to the edge or they could, it's, then they could kind of see over if they're standing back, right? So the idea is you can't really see over the paradigm shift. You have to be really close to the edge. Okay. Now I'm going to add one more here because when I have this one fade, okay, so we'll do color in a second. This one's going to fade. Now let's do colors. So we've got, are we just going, i think they're it's gonna scale you don't want to do like red blue yellow green you know i don't then it looks too wonky so you want to like gradually so i think it's uh let's just go from i think going from blue up like dark blue up is like makes it like exciting so we go dark blue no not that i never want that i always want to do this okay dark blue and then okay and then this here's what we're gonna do this is gonna be light blue And this is going to be green. Wait, no. This is going to be green. And this is going to be like yellowy orange. I guess I could just make it yellow and have it the darker yellow. And then this here is going to be orange. Let's get a real orange in here. Okay. So it's a little rainbow staircase. Now I'm going to make this the gradient, right? So we're going to say this is going to go gradient 90 from trash that from let's show me recent colors because that would be cool, but it won't because it's a dick because it's a fucking dick from blue to light bright blue. Yeah. Now this one, is going to be let's just copy the gradient here let's just copy it for all of them why would i why would i want to not have it be 90 i just did that okay now this one goes from bright blue and this one goes from i need like the darker yellow thing percentage is it here it is 21 so this one goes from nope nope This one goes from yellow to orange. Now we're going to label these. So we're going to say this one is, I mean, what I would like is this to be vertical and I could write like Industrial Revolution up that side, but obviously that's not going to work. So we're just going to go like this and why? Oh my God, it's so small. That is the stupidest size font I've ever seen. 12, uh, WAPAWI font. It took me so long to write all the WAPAWI letters in the WAPAWI font. The perfectionism was out of control because under the same logic as the book where it's like, this is forever. I'm like, I don't like that R and I'm going to hate it forever. So then I would do it like a hundred times. Okay. So industrial, I have to be way smaller than that. Let's do an arrow. Library. My library has an arrow. The exact one I need. Okay. So go back to, here, now shift, save. Okay, so industrial revolution. I mean, it's really the second industrial revolution up here, but it should be nice to just call it the electric revolution and not have to. Let me see if I can get away with that. Because then that fits here, because I'm not going to call this one the third. I'm going to call it digital. And here, AI revolution. I don't really need this part, you know? I'm not really actually, I'm not really. And it's gonna make the whole thing have to shrink more to get to fit this in. But it does remind you that we're not like done. Damn. Maybe I'll just shrink this whole thing once it's done. I don't know. Unsatisfying. Now I want to add years and then we're done. So I think I was gonna put the year underneath, but maybe I put the year over here. Like I was gonna put the year underneath, but this took up way more. I mean, I guess I could. have it i'll go on one line but then it's going to go all the way out to here this is the kind of that you know i've read so many drawings just have this like there's no good solution i have to figure it out and i don't like that see i want to just be like oh i also should probably put this in the right color because it's like heading up to that place just try it add more black because it's text um okay so we have two problems First is that this is I think I first thing I can do is I think this horse can go closer to him and this can be short We don't need that because nothing's no one's looking over the edge here Okay, that's the first thing so now this whole thing can move over Hopefully you don't really need to do much movement here. It's really close Now I guess I can shrink the whole thing by just a tiny bit to get it like it's so close. Also weird to have AI alone but on that line but I think it's consistent with all the rest of these things so okay we go here and here and then we just go one and like that that's I need to do all this again. There we go okay so that's one problem solved. So now I can go out here and now also this is going to fade I mean I guess will it fade? I guess I think this should probably fade. because we don't know what the hell's going on over there do we you don't and i don't that's kind of the ish um maybe this could be okay and then we don't know what's up there that's the point we're here so i'm going to put like the year okay so years is the last thing and he did not the year is the the the words here refers to these things we'll go over um the vertical steps right that's what these refer to but the year refers to the horizontal steps like when when this guy is looking up like that um i could just like squeeze it in here um let me try that um 17 50 17 50 18 50 19 20 and 20 20 let's say and that should be in blue it's a little small the font at least she's gonna yell at me um She was very upset about the atmosphere drawing and some of the contrast and the small font and everything going on there. So we're going to have to adjust some of that. Okay. I don't want it to look like it's the revolution's date, but I don't think that's going to look like that. I mean, I guess I could not have it in the color, but let's just take a look at it once it's done. 1850, 1920, and I'd say like 2020, right? I mean, I could put 2027 here, but it's like AI revolution is in progress. So we're maybe like a little past this girl, tiny bit. Yeah. Those years could probably be bigger. All right. Now we need to figure out, is this clear what I'm talking about here? Is it clear that I'm saying, yeah, that's the guy. Maybe the year should be, the years could be black. Let's just see what that looks like. I like our little staircase out here. I think that... year shouldn't be black because it's like 1750 is we're in dark blue land then the industrial revolution is light blue changes everything to light blue so now the 1850 guy lives in light blue land on the light blue line in the year light blue year 1850 and then the green electrical revolution comes along changes the world into green and the guy's now living in green in the green 1920 and then digital revolution changes everything to yellow. We're currently living in yellow as it's transforming into orange in front of our eyes. And it's hard for us to see what that's going to mean. We can predict every year that goes by, we can do better and better prediction. Before LLMs in 2020, really, it was too hard to see. But now we're like in the middle of the line going up. So we're starting to be able to see, but we have no clue what's going to really be out there. And we certainly don't know. What is the next we don't know what the next big shift is and we certainly can't predict the technology that's gonna be there Yeah large years above to reduce clutter. Let's try it Let's try I think I don't like the black years So let's get rid of that The only thing is I just want it to be super clear that like you know I'm talking about this person is living in and I worry it's like It kind of works. Maybe the year should be black in this case and certainly the euro now pops out anymore you can see what's going on better but also it might be a little bit less like i mean the year should probably be the the color helps at least understand that because right now 1850 is on the it's vertically over the right place but it's horizontally over the wrong place and i don't want that to be confusing like in 1750 we're down there we're not up there yet But it is just saying the scene below is 1750. He's looking up and the scene below is 1850. You think years above may look better? Yeah, I mean, I'm totally down. This is why I'll just leave this here and get some feedback. It is clutter. It is better, right? It's better. It's, yeah. I'm trying to say that this person is doing, this is happening, looking up then. But maybe the colors... Yeah, the colors in one way are helpful and another way might be confusing. Maybe this could also be, maybe it could be a little thicker. Because the colors, you know, the line is clear. You can see there's a line. So that's not the problem. But because the color is really important here, the color is doing a lot of work. I want people to make sure they see the color. Yeah, see, that's too much. Well, it's not bad, actually. I mean, definitely bigger than it was. Because again, it's going to be pretty small on the page. Now it's not, it's no question. Yeah, now it's too big, too big. But one notch, yeah. Let's try this. Now I think I need to move the whole line down. This could be a little bit thicker. Yeah, I mean, maybe the layers are a little too big now. Maybe they could be nested down a little bit more. Just be like, this is the scene then. This can't go down much more because of the smoke. I don't know if it's centered over. i don't want it to be like here because then it's too close to the edge right and we want to show that it's very clearly like maybe it has to be in the middle of the yeah i'm down i'm definitely down for uh for this change i think that's probably because you know it's like sometimes i'm like oh but it's like satisfying if it's like right below but now it's just like you know some people are going to not even see the years right and here it's just max clarity and as i've been saying clarity over aesthetics this also might look more aesthetic and be clearer It's just, yeah, it's just the other ones like, I mean, what I really want, I mean, what I could do now, I was thinking I could make the stairs really thick. And then you put the number that you're in the stair, which is really the clearest possible thing. Cause it's like this horizontal thing is 1850. But that's just going to look weird. Well, I have them all now to look at for consideration. Black font. Yeah, it could just be like, let the color do the work below. On the other hand, it's making it very clear that 1850 does not refer to this thing to the right. It's not like he's here, but now up in 1750, we're here now up in 1850 here. See, I don't want any chance of that. So in this case, whether the black looks better, the the colors are yours are my my best friend with drawings this is why i almost did the book in black and white and my god can you imagine it's just like i could do this sure all of this could be black and white um it's just you lose so much clarity and this one isn't even that bad an example imagine this one there are so many books where they have something like this and it would just be lines lines with words black and white boring the color brings the whole thing to life and makes it look so much more Here, this could be black and white. It would be fine. That could be black and white. It would be fine. The animals would be much worse. That could be fine. This, much worse in black and white. Much, much, much worse. Could be fine, but like worse, right? Like a gray table with like, so I'm like, you know what? The book's going to cost 12 bucks more, but it's going to be so much better. And I'm pleased that... yeah i was down to i thought my editor was going to really say black and white and i was going to be like you know you know best let's try it we'll sell probably more books we probably will sell more books but it'll be worse book and i i don't i'm just very you know i really want it to be what i would think of as like the ideal book and that's i want to try this thing that's probably not going to work it's probably just going to make the things too hectic and i like it the way it is but we're gonna just try it for a second. Let's see what would happen if, like what I would like is this to be a really big drawing that's the constraints of a book won't allow with really big thick lines and these, the Industrial Revolution, you know, this is really high. If I were doing this on the blog, these vertical steps would be huge and they would have Industrial Revolution written alongside them, in them probably. That would be best, but we don't have that luxury here. So let's just see what would happen if I went like this something crazy. It's pretty crazy. It's probably pretty crazy. I think it's a little wacky, but let's just see. Now the color is too prominent, right? It's just kind of like really jumping out at you. What I was picturing is like, you know, we'd need some massaging here. to make this actually work. Obviously I need to like really reconfigure this all. It's a long way from being actually ready. Why is this so hard to like grab something I want to grab? There, God, that was so annoying. Let's go here, go here, and let's, here we go. It's gonna get a little bigger then, except for the last one's gonna be fuck me over again. But I could fix that later if I actually chose this crazy option. So, let me see. I also don't want to make it look like the light bulb was invented in 1920. That's part of what I liked about this first one, is that it's like this, now it's like this industrial revolution happens, we have this kind of technology, now this guy's here on the precipice of the electrical revolution. But I don't think that matters so much. The years in the vertical lines doesn't make sense because... The vertical lines is the revolution, and now the horizontal is the time span in between the two revolutions, which is why this doesn't work so well. That does bring me back to this one because it's like the time span would actually be like 1830 to 1880 would be like this stretch, right? And it's not a timeline. It's like someone living in 1850. This is how the world looks at someone living in 1850. They know about locomotives, but they can't quite see this. Someone living in 1920 has lots of that. That's already happened. Now they can't quite see this, right? So that's why I really want it to be like, it's almost like the person is labeled then, which is kind of why I did this. But it's also cluttery. So there's no perfect one. They all have pros and cons. I do think the thin line, this level of thickness is better than the really, really thin line. But, I mean, if I want to be extremely clear, I could just do the year right over the person with a little arrow down to them, but it seems a little over the top. But yeah, when you have all these colors, it's nice to have black. So, you know, when you have here, it's like cut lots of color, which is okay too, but... I do see the benefit in that. Now again, this would all be solid if I could go more vertical. The vertical lines would get way bigger. They'd go up above the year and then it would be great. Like down here on this step, you'd have this and then it would go way up here. Then it would go way up here. That would be perfect, but I can't do that because we can't take up half a page with something again that is not a, it's basically just highlighting a point I've already made in writing. That's all it's doing. Maybe if I did this one, I actually would want to do, I actually might want to, if I were going to do this, I might want to make this. What's going on? I actually want to move these over right under the guy. Kind of like I had it originally, but now with less clutter. And it's showing it's kind of on the precipice. Yeah, I mean, I can't do my dream here, which would be, big vertical lines with the revolutions written inside them but that's okay um it would make it more believable that they can't see over the edge but um i think that works too because then i have to make it this figures bigger and the whole thing would just get bigger um it's just it's a little like you turn the page and you're reading about this and it's like this really like intense colorful drawing if you do it this way versus here which is much more about like the objects here it's like the objects are like almost secondary to this like But maybe that's, you know, we're showing like paradigm shift, paradigm shift, these vertical lines, or these, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Well, now I have all these, don't I? And these can all be assessed, warming up to this one, only because I think it's, you know, catches your eye. And the point is, is actually that... The objects are supposed to be not the centerpiece. It's just an example of what's there. It is kind of the staircase is kind of the point. It's like you're on this stair. You can't see over to that stair. Then this revolution changes the color to the next stair, brings you up to the next stair where you can't see over. So it's like in some ways, maybe the stairs should just be a little higher too. I could just make them a little higher. Anyway, I feel good. I can stop for now with this one. For now I'll just save it here. Yeah, I feel like the steps should be a little higher. Because the point of this is the vertical steps. Just like 30% higher each one. But anyway, that's for later. So, I said it was a medium one. I guess it was a medium one. It's a little hard. A little hard, but medium. It took a while from that first moment when I was putting this locomotive together, but... It was a medium and like difficulty. It wasn't like energy intensive. Okay. Should we do another? All right. I'm going to do one more. And it's a relatively easy one. I'm going to start out tomorrow with a beast. Yeah. There's like one, two. There's like two more that scare me. Where I'm like, ah. it looks really hard and then um no yeah two more that scare me and then like three more that i'm like eh but it's not like nightmare inducing so i feel like i should do one one of the ones that scares me tomorrow and then move on to some of the icky ones and really try to you know do hard things here so i'll be back in a minute i think we've lost our music these hats um Late night crowd. So, folks.com, that was quite a chapter of the night. We don't have any of this open. Okay. Okay, so I'm going to move to an easy one. I've got these. I don't know, I'm not going to do that thing where I go and work on it. I'm going to do one more. I'm being civil this week. First night I work 14 hours till 1 in the morning. But that's not sustainable three days in a row. I mean, it is, but I'll follow. I'll be sad, so. Okay, so this one, bring this back to chapter seven. It's the very beginning of chapter seven. And this is just like a little tiny, I'd say, we've come a long, long way together. Blah, blah, blah. Before we raise someone in the future, let's make a pit stop here in the present. Raised within borderline between two oceans of time where we spend our lives. It's good to be here with you. So we're in the present for the first time in the book. Okay, this is going to be real simple. So, present. This needs to have some thickness. The point here is to show how thin the present is. So I think I need two huge arrows. Real big, but I don't want the actual arrow part to be that big. So my attribute is better. To do is... Rectangles with a triangle. Yeah, this isn't gonna be good. No, no, no, this isn't gonna be good. No, no, no. Okay, we're gonna do it differently. We're gonna do rectangles. So it's gonna go across the whole page. Whoa, what the hell? Oh my god. It's psychotic. How it goes to, in the craziest moments, it goes to the arrow. Okay, let's fill this in. What color is the past? And what color is the future? And what color is the present? Um, past? Blue, green, green, yellow, orange? No. Blue, just try. But the past is like a dark blue, right? Point here is to just show. I mean, we could stay on theme. We did this yesterday. It's not really, you know, it's subliminal. People won't remember this, but you can start to give certain colors a feel. you know we could do this dark red for the past um and people will just it'll just feel a little more intuitive because they've seen it before why did i just close that i wasn't ready to close that so like a dark red and then like a light blue and green could do that um i don't love it um you know maybe the point here should be to accentuate the middle so we do dark and dark so we do like um like this. Then we make this bright yellow. Too bright it might just look like it's a gap in between them so I don't want that either. You could go the other way. You could go the other way. Make this the dark one but then it could look like a border between them. You know? It has to be visible. Also I feel like now we're like, I don't think the future looks like that. Very aesthetic. Okay another alternative is they make them the same color and it really highlights it. look like it's annoying that they're such different length words okay so what of this now or a little joke here you don't need people to actually see it because they'll or how about this inconsistent somehow either inconsistent with the spacing or inconsistent with the length of the word kind of like this better but maybe you know what let's let her sing let's let her sing i tried so many times today let's see I'm gonna see how this works. I had an idea and I think I liked it more than what we were doing before. It's so small. It's a little funny being so small. I'm doing time right now. You can see that, but you can see it. You can. A little bit bigger. It's kind of funny if he's like crunched in there. This is me like, here we are in this between two vast oceans of time. It's good to be here with you. So that would be the thing that comes next. Now does he have a face or is that just too small? I think it's better with out of it. Is that done or should I do another line here? Let me try to... It'd be it. I think that might be done. Make sure you can see it on the page, but I think you can. The high could be bigger, I guess. Although a little tiny high is kind of funny too. Yeah. I like that better than like a thin line and then I'm standing on top of the line saying hi. It's like I'm stuck in the present between the two oceans and it's like these daunting things on either side, which is how I feel. The past is so big. future is so big and we're just like here in this like little like here in between them so that's i think i'm getting across what i want to oh good you're getting procrastinating more fun too that i love that see um the screen says stfu oh i'm glad this guy's in the middle now breaking that up um all right um this was a this was another success of a day Flatland turned out to be a beast. It was always gonna be I didn't know it, but it was always going to be and now it's not ahead of me. It's behind me and We got down the second the second flatland thing which I thought might have been just as hard, but it wasn't and then we got done got a The paradigm shifts one done, which was a lot of a lot of work that one. It's procrastination. I'm with Mark Rober And I will be back tomorrow. Another giant day. Last one. Maybe there'll be more on this book, but maybe not. Maybe I'll do one more day or two. If I'm still not, but I think I should be done. I really should be done soon. So we'll see. If not, then definitely for future posts. I think live streaming is a good way to do work. And so I plan to do more of it. Awesome. I think I'm gonna, yeah, I think I'm gonna just check out right now so I can actually, I have some, get really, really behind on emails and texts. And I think I have three hours to pay taxes and, you know, a lot of other things happen that I get behind on. So go do some of that. try to get sleep tonight. I didn't sleep very much last night. I'm trying to get a good night's sleep tonight. And we'll be back on at 11 Eastern tomorrow for another huge day. Maybe another guest. Maybe Liv will join us at some point or someone else. And hope you have a great night and come back tomorrow. See you then.

Livestreaming myself doing drawings for my next book, a story about everything.